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Post #1 Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:45 am 
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I added some of my own comments from self-review in here, I wonder if someone wouldn't mind taking a look at it and point out a few of my biggest mistakes.



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Post #2 Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:46 am 
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A few comments:

w8 should be at f17

b9: make an extension at c10 or attack the weak white group at e17

w10 looks better at e17

b19: just reduce the gap to q10 with q6. If white q2, you can still block at r3.

b57: small. You got lucky that w answered that. Try to invade, e.g. f3.

b69: you cannot capture w this way. Notice the broken shape that w inflicts on b with move 70. You can attack with j7. The white n9 group is not alive yet.

b73: you just added a stone to a dead group. Good points seem to be l13 or e17.

b89: what does this move achieve? Better run with your weak group, e.g. g9.

b99: It's not that bad as it cashes in some territory. Maybe g11 would have been a bit better.

b111: Attack at e17 first, and while w is defending, you can try to make some territory around f17.

b131: a wasted move. You could use this as ko threat.

b151: just connect, otherwise w can cut at n16. You're lucky w didn't see that.

b277: b1. Otherwise w could have killed with b1

b279: b1. Capture and live. Doing tsumego would help you in such situations.

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:34 pm 
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I've added comments to the game about specific moves.

Avoid small moves and don't ignore urgent ones.


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Post #4 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:14 pm 
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Alguien wrote:
I've added comments to the game about specific moves.

Avoid small moves and don't ignore urgent ones.


Thanks, I agree with all your comments. Much appreciated.

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Post #5 Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:31 pm 
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I think some letters and pointers weren't exported from my sgf editor.

Next time I'll only use variations.

For this one:
- Copy the following text.
- Put it (with notepad, or whatever) in a text file.
- Name the file whetever.sgf
- Open the file with an sgf editor.

The text:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]PW[kusndr]PB[Lamp]WR[9k]DT[2012-09-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+26.50];B[pp]BL[1797.419]C[kusndr [9k\]: привет, удачи
];W[dp]WL[1794.001];B[pd]BL[1789.801];W[dc]WL[1790.042];B[de]BL[1784.216];W[ce]WL[1786.482];B[cf]BL[1779.422];W[cd]WL[1784.955];B[df]BL[1778.142];W[nc]WL[1783.129]
(;B[dd]BL[1762.305]C[[Alguien\] See variation.];W[cc]WL[1777.486];B[qf]BL[1760.417];W[pb]WL[1768.46];B[qc]BL[1758.491];W[kc]WL[1766.313];B[pj]BL[1756.444];W[nq]WL[1756.422]
(;B[qq]BL[1746.416]C[This move looks a little strange, but I felt it was good. I wasn't worried about a 4th line invasion because depending on white's response I could either severely attack the invading stone or the weak stone at O3

[Alguien\] It does look strange. See variations.];W[pn]WL[1752.591]C[[Alguien\] This invites the cut. W should've treated r3 as slow, not as light.];B[qm]BL[1736.397]C[[Alguien\] Cutting is urgent.];W[pr]WL[1728.997]C[[Alguien\] This makes no sense. B isn't in danger. w should connect.];B[oo]BL[1716.36];W[om]WL[1726.824]
(;B[ok]BL[1703.234]C[[Alguien\] I'd play safer. See variation];W[nl]WL[1712.221]C[[Alguien\] Running with those will weaken the already week bottom.]
(;B[cj]BL[1697.903]C[[Alguien\] Bottom right is very urgent.];W[cn]WL[1705.687]C[[Alguien\] W should play urgent first.]L[lp][nk];B[mp]BL[1685.929];W[mq]WL[1696.429];B[lp]BL[1682.101]C[The idea here was to build thickness and then try to attack the 3 white stones around P7 again.

The idea was right. It was just possible sooner.];W[lq]WL[1680.192]
(;B[ll]BL[1680.649]L[kp]C[[Alguien\] I'm not sure I'd let w hane at the head of my two stones.]
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(;B[nj]BL[1659.173]C[[Alguien\] This was a trap.];W[mj]WL[1581.678];B[oj]BL[1657.78];W[lk]WL[1560.381];B[mi]BL[1634.918];W[mk]WL[1555.211]
(;B[nh]BL[1622.118]C[[Alguien\] Too many cutting points.];W[li]WL[1545.275];B[mh]BL[1620.25];W[kj]WL[1543.584];B[kn]BL[1617.378];W[nn]WL[1538.495];B[mo]BL[1611.515];W[no]WL[1534.005];B[np]BL[1610.029];W[kp]WL[1522.171];B[on]BL[1604.813]C[[Alguien\] too small.]
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[Alguien\] They would have died. However, once you've decided to run, why run towards w?]L[en][em][el];W[fq]WL[1299.871]L[dk][gk]C[[Alguien\] Seems a bit passive; b can't makes eyes in bottom and is still running blind. I'd have attacked.];B[fp]BL[1337.24];W[eq]WL[1273.675];B[gq]BL[1333.142]C[[Alguien\] doesn't work.];W[gp]WL[1260.996];B[gr]BL[1331.212];W[hr]WL[1242.693];B[dm]BL[1262.447];W[gk]WL[1219.779];B[go]BL[1222.469]C[[Alguien\] To protect that cut you could've played A.]L[fm];W[fr]WL[1208.511]C[[Alguien\] I don't see what w is defending there.];B[gh]BL[1171.247]L[ej]C[This move feels like it doesn't accomplish anything. Perhaps O15 or E11 is stronger

[Alguien\] The central bottom group is still unsettled and W venter is alive.

I'd A, for territory and connection.];W[kg]WL[1175.261]C[[Alguien\] w is alive.]L[fd][dk];B[fj]BL[1146.322];W[fk]WL[1167.785];B[ek]BL[1142.6];W[el]WL[1151.411];B[dl]BL[1128.604];W[fm]WL[1125.871];B[en]BL[1122.524];W[gj]WL[1111.813];B[fi]BL[1120.36];W[hh]WL[1094.419];B[gc]BL[1112.885];W[bf]WL[1079.012];B[bg]BL[1110.191];W[ae]WL[1075.017];B[jb]BL[1103.369]L[ic][ne]C[[Alguien\] a bit small.];W[kb]WL[1072.063];B[jc]BL[1102.037];W[fb]WL[1063.25];B[ec]BL[1098.662];W[eb]WL[1052.888];B[fc]BL[1097.311];W[gb]WL[1051.405];B[ke]BL[1030.947]C[[Alguien\] better to enclose on the less open side. Or on the other group.]L[hg][ne][bm];W[gg]WL[1038.323];B[hg]BL[1026.849];W[gi]WL[1008.877];B[fh]BL[1022.545];W[ig]WL[1007.004];B[hf]BL[1020.952];W[if]WL[1002.868];B[hi]BL[988.593];W[ih]WL[1000.643];B[he]BL[985.017];W[ie]WL[998.261];B[me]BL[979.544];W[kd]WL[981.085];B[gl]BL[969.87];W[hl]WL[955.416];B[gm]BL[956.865];W[fl]WL[933.557]L[hc][bh][bl][qb][qr]C[[Alguien\] Very small.

This is the last comment.];B[jd]BL[895.576];W[hd]WL[925.647];B[ge]BL[881.274];W[je]WL[897.724];B[hc]BL[875.136];W[le]WL[878.613];B[lf]BL[848.523];W[kf]WL[848.833];B[ld]BL[847.239]C[Probably N14 would have been better.];W[ke]WL[842.141];B[lc]BL[845.965];W[lb]WL[837.214];B[mc]BL[843.269];W[mb]WL[825.174];B[md]BL[839.33];W[nd]WL[809.424];B[ne]BL[835.847];W[qb]WL[784.715];B[rb]BL[826.9];W[pc]WL[782.254];B[rd]BL[824.529];W[oe]WL[772.25];B[nf]BL[811.536];W[od]WL[756.554];B[of]BL[808.774];W[pe]WL[755.236];B[qe]BL[806.549];W[pf]WL[751.725];B[pg]BL[802.319];W[qd]WL[750.386];B[hk]BL[794.324];W[hj]WL[742.563];B[pd]BL[792.702];W[ml]WL[733.367];B[ln]BL[776.501];W[qd]WL[732.017];B[nr]BL[743.44];W[mr]WL[723.494];B[pd]BL[741.268];W[ej]WL[711.755];B[dk]BL[737.407];W[qd]WL[709.991];B[ms]BL[733.992];W[ns]WL[705.43];B[pd]BL[730.392];W[dn]WL[675.837];B[em]BL[724.004];W[qd]WL[674.009];B[lr]BL[703.472];W[ls]WL[671.532];B[pd]BL[700.939];W[id]WL[635.376];B[ic]BL[697.423];W[qd]WL[632.762];B[fn]BL[693.651];W[ij]WL[609.391];B[pd]BL[686.531];W[bl]WL[601.375];B[bk]BL[655.791];W[ag]WL[590.852];B[ah]BL[647.264];W[af]WL[585.099];B[ch]BL[636.932];W[qd]WL[582.542];B[hs]BL[634.131];W[gs]WL[580.35];B[pd]BL[631.755];W[rr]WL[573.924];B[rq]BL[628.72];W[qd]WL[568.695];B[ad]BL[618.479];W[be]WL[564.495];B[pd]BL[615.508];W[fe]WL[535.635];B[gd]BL[600.583];W[qd]WL[533.223];B[db]BL[558.914];W[cb]WL[527.118];B[pd]BL[556.775];W[eh]WL[501.625];B[fg]BL[545.108];W[qd]WL[499.684];B[do]BL[518.177];W[co]WL[496.318];B[pd]BL[516.358];W[pq]WL[492.584];B[qp]BL[492.077];W[qd]WL[490.575];B[rc]BL[462.651];W[pd]WL[483.027];B[bm]BL[460.26];W[cm]WL[476.522];B[cl]BL[458.419];W[bn]WL[475.699];B[al]BL[450.601];W[eo]WL[468.373];B[qr]BL[403.302];W[qg]WL[455.873];B[rg]BL[386.882];W[og]WL[452.068];B[oh]BL[358.727];W[ph]WL[449.766];B[ng]BL[357.465];W[pg]WL[431.539];B[qi]BL[349.12];W[pi]WL[419.435];B[oi]BL[343.341];W[rh]WL[403.589];B[rf]BL[339.042];W[ri]WL[382.513];B[rj]BL[334.04];W[se]WL[362.347];B[sg]BL[265.042];W[ra]WL[330.715];B[sb]BL[252.319];W[sd]WL[318.644];B[si]BL[212.699];W[qh]WL[289.85];B[sh]BL[206.689];W[qj]WL[279.485];B[qk]BL[194.851];W[lg]WL[247.762]L[rk];B[rk]BL[123.543];W[qa]WL[225.878];B[sj]BL[111.283];W[sa]WL[212.834];B[re]BL[106.566];W[hb]WL[189.253];B[cq]BL[87.95];W[bp]WL[160.854];B[bq]BL[79.035];W[cr]WL[138.258];B[dr]BL[75.759];W[br]WL[130.149];B[ar]BL[65.796]
(;W[dq]WL[80.889]L[bs]
(;B[cs]BL[52.673];W[ap]WL[65.107]
(;B[aq]BL[41.205];W[bs]WL[39.28];B[as]BL[28.005];W[br]WL[32.664];B[er]BL[30]OB[5];W[es]WL[28.805];B[cp]BL[30]OB[5];W[an]WL[2.722];B[qs]BL[30]OB[5];W[ps]WL[30]OW[5];B[ep]BL[30]OB[5];W[do]WL[30]OW[5];B[ja]BL[30]OB[5];W[ib]WL[30]OW[5];B[ka]BL[30]OB[5];W[la]WL[30]OW[5];B[ff]BL[30]OB[5];W[ol]WL[30]OW[5];B[pl]BL[30]OB[5];W[lh]WL[30]OW[5];B[mf]BL[30]OB[5];W[ia]WL[30]OW[5];B[qi]BL[30]OB[5];W[am]WL[30]OW[5];B[bl]BL[30]OB[5];W[qj]WL[30]OW[5];B[bo]BL[30]OB[5];W[ao]WL[30]OW[5];B[qi]BL[30]OB[5];W[ai]WL[30]OW[5];B[bh]BL[30]OB[5];W[qj]WL[30]OW[5];B[kk]BL[30]OB[4];W[jk]WL[30]OW[5];B[qi]BL[30]OB[4];W[mg]WL[30]OW[5];B[qj]BL[30]OB[4];W[]WL[30]OW[5];B[]BL[30]OB[4]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ma][na][oa][pa][ab][bb][db][nb]
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(;B[ph];W[ng];B[kn]))
(;W[kp];B[ko];W[jo]))
(;B[kp])
(;B[jo]))
(;B[mo]C[[Alguien\] This threatens everything.])
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(;B[mp];W[mq];B[lp];W[lq];B[jo]))
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