I think this is a bad example, as it does not demonstrate that even innocuous looking endgame situations have many tesujis that go unnoticed. I would suggest picking up Train Like a Pro Vol. 1 and solving those endgame problems. Even if you are already very good at finding tesujis, you will be forced to memorize a lot of different moves' point values, which is useful.

Shape understanding, Global/Long-term view of each stone, Patience

Can you instantly spot the key points and type of problem?

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Can you instantly spot the key points to give maximum endgame play?

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Here?

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Global/Long-term view of each stone, Patience:

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Eh, sorry, but... LOL. Even replacing gote by sente can be tesuji.

Yes i saw the key points. A little bit of time for the second sequence, didnt really think about the first but i guess if it was a game i might have read more.




Not instantly but yes..



Yes this one was easier than the rest



Nope, i didnt see this one at all

Well, Shuei can be patient when he has a jaw-droppingly awesome tesuji up his sleeve .

By this, do you mean things like the expansion from a low shimari on P17/R16 to O14 you played in that game on OGS ? If not, could you give an example please?

Yes, I suppose that would be an example, the classic one I am thinking of is as below. This prevents white's perfect reduction point at a. You perhaps don't see these moves so often in professional play because they lead to an excellent position, so the opposing professional will often reduce before the other gets the chance to play such a move. But in our amateur games mistakes from our opponents perhaps give more chances to play such moves.

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An example of a similar haengma from a pro game:

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although that move was play by professional i strongly disagree with that move. It is missing spirit.
i can understand why he played so timid (to cover the peep move aji at 'a')

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but win or lose...one can not play such timid move and expect to win.

i am guessing white won this game??

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Yes, by a quarter of a point (Chinese rules).

Another example is L7 in http://gogameguru.com/game-commentary-1 ... gshim-cup/ but white won that one too . At least Liu Yuanbo won the game where he made that shape that I linked to in the comments.

Consider the possibility that you just admitted that you can only see the obvious endgame plays!

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Hmmm.

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Visualize whirled peas.

Everything with love. Stay safe.

Seven and nine should be reversed.

In my opinion the most important thing to progress in Go is just consistent playing of thoughtful games.

You found that easy? I don't know the answer. Could someone enlighten me?

As a 1d I often see a move A that seems so big, but at the same time I see a move B that is urgent. Then my thinking goes: "But A is so big and I get my reward (territory, moyo) right now, while B looks so small and indirect...and heck, I will somehow survive/fix it there at B, so let's play A." The second thinking is promoted because in many cases it works that you can fix B later somehow and so the bad habit is created.

I think everyone can get to 3-4D. Some might do it in one year without a teacher, some might need 10 consecutive years with extensive studies in Asia, but any normal-intelligent human could do it, assuming his motivation. I think that 5-6D and above requires talent, that you have or don't. It's like: Anybody can train to run 100m below 13s, but you need to be gifted to run it below 11s...if you do not have the body features necessary you won't succeed.

Have you tried out the problems I posted on the huang longshi thread?
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viewtopic.php?p=149517#p149517

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