It "could have been" but evidently that didn't happen. Asking someone in direct relation to the publication would have been a much smarter, more accurate and efficient way of gaining the information. Instead Logan comes and posts publicly, stating that at one point HE planned on doing a version of the book but lay pause over fears of regurgitating someone-else work. Then asks for information about what johns version basically accusing him of the same unless proven otherwise. THEN insults him indirectly by saying, there is a better version of this book waiting to be written - when he hasn't read johns version. It sounded an awful lot like a smear against him and his methods before any facts had been presented.

Oh i don't know. I mean its not like he is actually interested in selling the book, and has access to all Smartgo books in their entirety or anything, of which he provides customer service for; And as previously mentioned, john usually cites his sources within his books. I can speak from personal interactions with Anders that he is usually happy to answer any questions that arise over books that he offers, and from a customer service aspect i would hardly come to believe that he would be even remotely bothered by the query.

As for the the phrase of giving the shirt off his own back, it isn't to be taken literally and i am sorry for your inability to grasp the difference. As it seems almost impossible for some people to stay focused on the crux of the matter.

I will close by saying that i don't think John was over-reacting, that is my own personal view and i am sticking with it. I don't care if you or anyone else agrees or disagrees with it. I certainly don't care for the little nit picks that you seem to want to place on display. You are of course entitled to your own views but i want John and everyone else who actually contributes solid material to the community to know that it is appreciated and that i would hope we could give their work a fair review only after having read it first.

ez4u was the first one to answer.

I'm glad he asked the question, and I found the discussion on the book very interesting. If he had just asked privately, a lot of us wouldn't have learned about it. I don't think logan tried to be controversial, and it's a bit silly that an interesting thread became so offtopic.

If logan translates his own version of the same 1910 version of the Japanese book, why would it conflict with copyright issues? It's not like logan is copying JF's translation. And if he follows the original organization of the problems, there is no conflict either because the original book is no longer under copyright.

The only thing is whether logan would actually profit from making a new version as JF has quite a lot of credentials for such works whereas I am not aware of logan having authored/translated go books published for sale previously.

If logan however decides to publish such a work as a free publication for the good of the community, that would be something we would all look forward to

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Well yes, with a line that Logan could have read from one of his own links that he posted.


http://gobooks.com/books.html


It hardly answers his question, beyond what he had already available to him, now does it.


I agree with tchan001, in fact i am certain most people would be interested to see how this "better version" would read if Logan ever decided to write it.

Fortunately you don't have to wonder; here are two such Asian versions of the Shikatsu Myoki. Both can still be found to purchase after only a small amount of Googling.

• 死活妙机 (1990; ISBN: 9787534801044)
• 围棋死活妙机 (2008; ISBN: 9787807058335)

As for a direct translation of the 1910 edition into English, John has already published, perhaps, the best version of that.

I already added the entire collection to Sensei's Library a year and a half ago. I also made a thread about it around the same time. It keeps with the updated organization of some of the Asian versions, but doesn't include any of their additional failure/variation diagrams or text.

Any idea how it compares to this one?

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%AD%BB%E6%B4 ... 9%E6%A9%9F

I think I have the 1981 one at home by the same authors.

Unfortunately no, i still have to wonder. You see they aren't in English, which is the whole purpose of a translation in first place. Your expectations of comparing a close to verbatim translation to other books containing discussions and additional commentary is hardly fair when it was never claimed to include such material.


Well as far as i know (if i am wrong i apologize), it is the ONLY published English version, therefore it is the best version that has been Translated into English. Maybe someone else in the future will put in the time to produce a better version, but until that happens his is it.


Now i understand that you may feel a little left out, perhaps even a little encroached upon because of your entry on Sensei's. Well i can only say that i commend your contribution to the site as it would not be anywhere near as wonderful of a resource if it didn't have people such as yourself contributing to it; i have no doubt it has been quite valuable to a lot of people over that time and will continue to be. But honestly, if you want to, or wanted to release a book that goes above and beyond, one that includes the material you are talking about, then i am sure i speak for us all when i say it would be more than welcomed.

There is really nothing stopping you from doing your own translation of the book/collection (besides a possible lack of return monetarily). But publicly proclaiming that you "would" have and "could" have translated a release in English if only it weren't for all of the considerations you stated, is quite frankly demeaning toward John who has actually released something. If you decide to release a book, in whatever form, the community will be more than happy to read it and its wonderful new additions if and when it arrives.

I put up all the problems from the 3rd volume of Gokyo Seimyo on SL a while ago and I would never say that I plan to make an English translation of the book just because I did that. To me putting it on SL doesn't mean I'm planning to author or translate a book.

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The one you linked to is a revision of the 1981 version. Likewise it's reorganized into four parts, with additional variations and commentary.

Correct, I too never planned on writing an equivalent book.