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Post #1 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:59 am 
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Hello,

I'd really like some help from stronger players with this.
I really messed this game up. Seems my openings as white always turn out bad :/ Please tell me what I should have done better.
I didn't know how to hande the upper left corner so I thougt in the end I would give it up to get the left side and kill/hunt the black stones there but then they lived and I got almost nothing out of it. I got frustrated and tried some things but they also went nowhere so I counted and resigned. I'm thankfull for any advice.

I guess G5 would have been better on E12 but it seemed so small and defensive so I wanted to try it on a larger scale.. well... maybe that was dumb. What do you think? Could I have killed those inside-stones? I made a lot of passive moves there because I often lose this kind of fights because theres a cut somewhere and some of my stones get captured => opponent makes life. :/



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Post #2 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:34 pm 
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Hi Taito and Welcome !

I'm 17 kyu so not really strong... But your 6 is 6 spaces from your hoshi stone, that looks un unusual to me... 5 spaces is better I think like black did with 7

Also 24 looks to block on the wrong side to me... Maybe D3 ? But again I'm not strong So maybe wait for somme one stronger's review...

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:06 pm 
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l3 was fine as there is space for a two space extension to the right. First problem was c8. Stop following your opponent around: he should have played d14 so you should play there to make powerful shape. Also c6 is inefficient with d10 already there. And d6 after that was even more inefficient.

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:11 pm 
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Hi Taito and Welcome !

I'm 17 kyu so not really strong... But your 6 is 6 spaces from your hoshi stone, that looks un unusual to me... 5 spaces is better I think like black did with 7

Also 24 looks to block on the wrong side to me... Maybe D3 ? But again I'm not strong So maybe wait for somme one stronger's review...


:w6: is okay, as it signals that white wants to make the lower side less valuable.

With :w24:, blocking on the other side is my first instinct as well, but if black ends in sente, with :w6: low and far, he can reduce the bottom quite effectively on the next move with a shoulder hit or the like, so perhaps this direction is better in that respect. On the other hand, as Uberdude mentioned, white looks kind of inefficient.

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Post #5 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:23 pm 
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A few comments on the opening. :)



You played a good opening for your level. You took a long time on a number of opening plays which were good. I hope that that instills some confidence. :)

For study, may I commend :w38:, :w40:, :w42:, and especially :w44:. You took over a minute for a number of plays, yet in a tricky situation you found a bad move in 6 seconds. Better to have taken 6 minutes.

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Post #6 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:31 am 
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Wow you're so fast! :clap:

Well, I played :w6: to reduce blacks potential on the lower side.

Thanks to your comments I can see now that :w20: was not good.
In the game I had the feeling that :b17: and :b19: were like black trying to be everywhere at the same time and that I should somehow take advantage of that but kind of panicked about my stone in the middle although it wasn't in danger.

I agree the upper left corner looks better with F16 instead of F17, I should have played that (at least I had thought about it - but I was more concerned about defending the corner from C17 - which I knew would be played because I knew my opponent well enough). Maybe even then the high move would have been more helpfull.

Do you think if I played :w42: on E12 the game would have been okay for white or is White already behind at that point?

Thank you so much for your help! :bow:

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Post #7 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:15 am 
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Taito wrote:
Do you think if I played :w42: on E12 the game would have been okay for white or is White already behind at that point?


If the Black stones on the upper left side die a dog's death, then White has the lead. :)

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