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Offline Ades
 Post subject: Another game
Post #1 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:11 am 
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this is a game i just played..
im playing as white
i giveaway lots of territory
i need help in reviewing the game..
thanks :tmbup:




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Offline EdLee
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Post #2 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:20 am 
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Hi Ades,

:w12: :)

:w16: wrong shape. What's your plan if :b17: hanes N16 ?
Did you see that if :b17: N16, you get a bad shape
for your 2 stones :w12: - :w14: ? "Hane head of 2," twice.

Basic shape: "hane head of 2 (enemy stones)":
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[go]$$
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . X X . . .
$$ . . O O B . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .[/go]
Often (but NOT always), this shape is good for B.
The :bc: stone is the hane, at the head of the 2 enemy :white: stones.

Basic shape: hane head of 2, twice:
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[go]$$
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . X X . . .
$$ . B O O B . .
$$ . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . .[/go]
Often (but NOT always), this shape is good for B.
Notice the 2 :white: stones are down to only 2 liberties.
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Offline EdLee
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Post #3 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:40 am 
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Hi Ades,

:w26: Can you connect to your Q18 stone ?
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Offline Ades
 Post subject: Re: Another game
Post #4 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:03 am 
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Hi Edlee

thanks for the review
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Offline EdLee
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Post #5 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:07 am 
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Hi Ades, you're welcome.

:w28: instead of the connect, what happens if you cut K17 ?

:w38: why ?

:w40: study the cut K17.

:w42: study the push J15.
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Offline Ades
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Post #6 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:09 am 
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EdLee wrote:
Hi Ades, you're welcome.

:w28: instead of the connect, what happens if you cut K17 ?

:w38: why ?

:w40: study the cut K17.


black group die?
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Offline EdLee
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Post #7 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:12 am 
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Ades wrote:
black group die?
Good question.

Please show your study here, with diagrams.

Review means: you work. :)
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Offline Ades
 Post subject: Re: Another game
Post #8 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:53 am 
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[go]$$B 19x19 board
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 7 X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |[/go]
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Offline EdLee
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Post #9 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:55 am 
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Ades wrote:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B 19x19 board
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 7 X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |[/go]
Why would W want to crawl on the first line with :w8: ? You let B make the big atari up :

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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X X X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 O O X X X O X . X . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . 2 X O O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |[/go]
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