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Post #21 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:36 pm 
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Free Go Coaching??? Sign me up! (its ok, I already did). I've been playing for a little over a year now and I'm at the point that I could use an actual person to regularly view my games and make suggestions (books only do so much).

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Post #22 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:30 pm 
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I am not ready to commit to this, much as I like the idea. It is just a matter of how much time I have. But if anyone in the 5-15k range wants to look me up on DGS I will be willing to play up to three people at once and try to help them. Just tell me you saw this message, because I normally refuse game invitations from random people.

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Post #23 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:19 pm 
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I am not ready to commit to this, much as I like the idea. It is just a matter of how much time I have. But if anyone in the 5-15k range wants to look me up on DGS I will be willing to play up to three people at once and try to help them. Just tell me you saw this message, because I normally refuse game invitations from random people.


Do you happen to play on OGS? Simply because that's where I already play.

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Post #24 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:29 am 
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DrStraw wrote:
I am not ready to commit to this, much as I like the idea. It is just a matter of how much time I have. But if anyone in the 5-15k range wants to look me up on DGS I will be willing to play up to three people at once and try to help them. Just tell me you saw this message, because I normally refuse game invitations from random people.


Do you happen to play on OGS? Simply because that's where I already play.


No. I created an account once but did not like to interface so never went back.

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Post #25 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:19 am 
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This sounds like a great idea!

Adding my name to it :)

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Post #26 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:29 am 
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I've signed up as a protege. I'm not feeling up to mentoring; I am starting to suspect that everything I know about Go is wrong.

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Post #27 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:34 am 
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I've signed up as a protege. I'm not feeling up to mentoring; I am starting to suspect that everything I know about Go is wrong.


I'm not sure if that suspicion ever goes away. :lol:

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Post #28 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:13 pm 
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Hi !

Great idea, I'm putting my name on as a mentor, anybody feel free to choose me ;-) .


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Post #29 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:51 am 
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This is a nice idea. I'd gladly teach... too bad I know almost nothing.

What if we created a room in KGS where L19-ers of different strength could play each-other in a friendly non-ranked manner, without handicap and a short review after (if needed)?

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Post #30 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:29 am 
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Hi findol,

I entered myself as your mentee. Assuming you'll accept me, please PM me to fix up schedule.

I look forward to learning from you!

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Post #31 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:25 am 
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peti29 wrote:

What if we created a room in KGS where L19-ers of different strength could play each-other in a friendly non-ranked manner, without handicap and a short review after (if needed)?


There is already a lifein19x19 room on KGS. I think it's just a matter of developing that sort of culture.


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Post #32 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:00 pm 
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This is a very nice idea! I listed myself both as a mentor and as a student. I'm hovering around 7k so maybe I can be of service. Please feel free to contact me.

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Post #33 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:27 pm 
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daal and I played our first game today, here's the sgf with a summary of the review. I (and I'm sure daal as well) would be happy to hear other players' comments!



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Post #34 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:47 pm 
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daal and I played our first game today, here's the sgf with a summary of the review. I (and I'm sure daal as well) would be happy to hear other players' comments!



althought black lost, black played better in the opening than white. Most choices black made were 100% accurate. very impressed... until the breakdown at the end.
i think it is due to lack of experience but am sure he will improve.

enjoyed it. thanks.

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Post #35 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:14 pm 
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I feel a little silly even offering, but, if there are any complete beginners who would appreciate the tutoring of a 14 kyu, drop a line. I don't know, maybe there can be some benefit to studying with someone a little closer to your own rank (along with a more serious, stronger mentor) simply because a weaker player may better relate to your own struggles and misconceptions. I certainly still recall the feeling of being confused by stuff like life and death and what sort of things helped me come along.

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Post #36 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:40 pm 
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Joelnelsonb wrote:
I feel a little silly even offering, but, if there are any complete beginners who would appreciate the tutoring of a 14 kyu, drop a line. I don't know, maybe there can be some benefit to studying with someone a little closer to your own rank (along with a more serious, stronger mentor) simply because a weaker player may better relate to your own struggles and misconceptions. I certainly still recall the feeling of being confused by stuff like life and death and what sort of things helped me come along.

I remember when I was first introduced to the game by some co-workers, and we were all just establishing our ranks, around 28-25 kyu. Then a new employee started who was 14 kyu. We were in so much awe, and bowing down before him -- until we learned later that our CEO was actually a 1 dan, but wouldn't play us, because he only played blitz, and we played really, really slow (only a few moves per day, and we even had our own board and stones in the office -- this was back when DGS was first released/started).

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Post #37 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:20 pm 
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I feel a little silly even offering, but, if there are any complete beginners who would appreciate the tutoring of a 14 kyu, drop a line. I don't know, maybe there can be some benefit to studying with someone a little closer to your own rank (along with a more serious, stronger mentor) simply because a weaker player may better relate to your own struggles and misconceptions. I certainly still recall the feeling of being confused by stuff like life and death and what sort of things helped me come along.


I never received a rank until I needed one to enter my first tournament. I was assigned 10k and did okay. But before that I helped new people in the club and was helped by the stronger people. My point is that rank is totally unimportant: everyone can help someone.

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Post #38 Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:33 am 
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After having given my protégé (that word sounds really silly now that I try to use it, but "mentee" and "mentoree" hardly even look like real words to me...) a few offline game reviews, I played my first game with him last night. I gave him an inadequate handicap of 4 stones (our difference on OGS is 7 stones) and the game was very difficult. My idea with this mentoring system, was basically to put Bill Spight's maxim of playing stronger players and reviewing with them into practice. Although I am significantly stronger than Saint Ravitt, I feel quite incompetent reviewing, and I don't have a really good understanding of how and why I won this game. I hope that the experience is nonetheless valuable. (I certainly appreciate the opportunity to play games with Sennahoj, and I would encourage more people to sign up! Here is the game with my sparse comments.



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Post #39 Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:04 am 
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I've added some comments to the game, but there is too much to comment on at once.



You may want to try a higher handicap until you leave enough weaknesses behind that black takes advantage of some of them. Once it's high enough, black will hopefully stop being afraid of the white stones and try to take advantage more often. It may not always work, but the attitude is the important thing.


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Post #40 Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:41 am 
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A few thoughts from the losing perspective.



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