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Post #141 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:21 am 
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oren and I just played our game. On my last move, I was thinking for about two and a half minutes and then I played it just as he resigned.

Here's the sgf without any added comments, but I'd love to hear what thoughts come to your mind as you look at the game.

(By the way, I'm not really a 2k like the sgf says. I haven't been playing on KGS, and my graph has creeped up on its own.)

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Post #142 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:20 pm 
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Ok, I'm playing GoCat this Saturday (10th July), at 22:00 UTC :)

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Post #143 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:11 pm 
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rubin427 and I will be playing tonight, Wednesday 07/07 at 8:00PM PST.

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Post #144 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:48 pm 
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Loons and I will be playing this Saturday (10th July), at 07:00 UTC

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Post #145 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:10 pm 
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what is the round deadline for this?
and what happens when one player contacts the other but doesnt get a reply?

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Post #146 Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:23 pm 
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Well, the game is over and I'm out of the tournament. :-|

Thanks again rubin427! It was a great game. :)

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Post #147 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:08 am 
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Have you already scheduled your game? I cant wait to play : )

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Post #148 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:36 am 
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Actually, it's scheduled for tomorrow/today (that is, Thursday), at 9pm Central / 10 Eastern. So, hold tight just a little longer.

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Post #149 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:34 am 
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Yep I am still okay for tonight and I am looking forward to it!

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Post #150 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:12 am 
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POGO wrote:
what is the round deadline for this?
and what happens when one player contacts the other but doesnt get a reply?


http://dfan.org/lifein19x19-standings-2010.html

Round dates at the top. If you don't get a reply, send another message and cc me into it, asking the recipient to do the same with his response. If there's no return within a week or so after the deadline, I'll call a forfeit.

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Post #151 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:58 pm 
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dfan and Actorios, when are you guys gonna play? I wanna know who my opponent will be! :twisted:

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Post #152 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:34 pm 
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dfan and Actorios, when are you guys gonna play? I wanna know who my opponent will be! :twisted:

Trying to set it up now... it might not be until the weekend of July 17-18 (I hope that's okay), since we're on different continents and I'm having to work this weekend (going crazy trying to get our latest product out).

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Post #153 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:15 pm 
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oren and ... but I'd love to hear what thoughts come to your mind as you look at the game.


27: Overcommitting to one side. Because of the possibility of Q7 and P7, pushing out into the center threatens both sides. Just play N5, and let white worry about which one he wants to save.

32: Too close to strength. J5 is also a ladder breaker, and gets you out.

34: Feels heavy. Again, I'd try something like J5 or K4.

38: You don't have time for this.

53: Nice move!

55: Feels premature.

62: Now, if K8 and K7 were removed, would black play K8?

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Post #154 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:05 pm 
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I won the game because K1ndOfBlue resigned, but I should have lost. Good game K1ndOfBlue! It was fun.


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Post #155 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:36 pm 
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Thank you for the game dusk. I counted and I think you were ahead (i suck at counting though so take that with a grain of salt) but it it is closer than what I thought and I probably should have stayed in there.

Good game though i had fun.

Thanks to shadrona also for the review afterwards.

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Post #156 Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:10 am 
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Hmmm maybe I'm dumb, but I think black can live in the upper left corner after A16... add some diagram later

Edit (oh sry after posting I saw that I inverted the colors) :


Here is the situation with the important stones around....

After 1 Black has two options to try the kill, the obvious first:
2 at 'b' to reduce Whites eyespace, white takes two stones ( the stone at '6' and 'a') with 5, now black needs to throw in with 6 to make a false eye, but white can simply play 7 and connect outside, cant he?

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[go]$$W White to live
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . 3 b 6 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 O O O X . . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . O X X O . X O O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X X . O . . O X X . X . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]




Ahhh now I see, Black can kill like this... well I post the diagrams anyway ~ a nice and short reading lecture ^_^ :

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[go]$$W White to live
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | 4 . 3 X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 2 O O O X 6 . O . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . O X X O . X O O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X X . O . . O X X . X . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . X O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O X X . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Post #157 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:38 am 
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Karaklis and I played, result White (me) +15.5

Here's the SGF


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Post #158 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:54 pm 
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GoCat and I played, result was B+R:


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Post #159 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:07 pm 
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Very fun game... I was totally outplayed!!

Post-mortem mode: What would have happened if white had connected at C6 for move 124 (instead of the descent at B1)? Does black still live?

Edit: I think black connects at A3, and we get a ko fight?

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Post #160 Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:12 pm 
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Post-mortem mode: What would have happened if white had connected at C6 for move 124 (instead of the descent at B1)? Does black still live?


yes black still lives.
exchange b4 and a4 then c1 will at least give him seki.

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