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Offline Numsgil
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #61 Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:00 pm 
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Offline Phelan
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Post #62 Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:51 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline walleye
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #63 Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:54 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wanted to play in this corner for a long time. And I think the last move Black played lets me do that.

The fourth line, to be closer to my center stone.

I approach from this direction because the top side is pretty thick, while the left is still a bit thin.
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Offline Phelan
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #64 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:22 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . B . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Pretty interesting move. I don't have a good response to it, no matter which direction I pick.
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[go]$$c The usual
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . 1 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 4 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |[/go]

This common sequence gives me the corner, but White gets to ruin my center moyo with a solid group, that will likely connect to the lone stone.

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[go]$$c Pincer
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 1 a . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |[/go]

:b1: or a would be over concentrated, and again threaten to connect and ruin the center

There is also protecting the corner with B16 or C16, but it seems to be focusing on the wrong area.
So, I jump out first and wait for his reply.

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Offline walleye
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #65 Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:59 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


OK, now that I've played in all four corners, I'd like to come back to the bottom side.
I have a clear advantage there and the prospect of capturing two black stones, which would be quite big.
In general, in a high handicap game White should fight where he has an advantage or at least equal chances with Black.

I will come back to the top left once the dust settles.

As for my last move, I just want to reinforce my stone there before I turn to attacking. If black protects his stones, I'll take some points in the corner.
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Offline Phelan
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #66 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:29 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . B . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think I can still get sente, if I just defend the corner like this, because of H4 and K4

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Post #67 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:12 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X W . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I cannot capture right away. Below is one possible variation.

So I just continue to reinforce my stones in bottom right.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 6 5 . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 4 O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 3 2 X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The move in the game puts more pressure on the corner, so Black might respond locally. It is also better for making shape.
If I jump to :w1: , I think Black would surely pull his enclosed stones out at :b2: . I cannot stop it escaping.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 3 5 . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 6 2 O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I admit I'm not reading anything amazing after my kosumi in the game. Perhaps this move will confuse Black a little.
I will figure out what to do next after he responds.
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Offline Phelan
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #68 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:12 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
His move seems to give me an attack on the left group, and a possibility of living on the bottom. So, that's what I'll try to do.

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Post #69 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:16 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't know why Black played there. He should have run instead.

I have some forcing moves against the corner
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 3 . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but I'm not sure Black will answer my :w3: , so I'll keep them in reserve. At any rate my move in the game seems more urgent.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #70 Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:54 am 
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I don't know why Black played there. He should have run instead.

I have some forcing moves against the corner
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 3 . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but I'm not sure Black will answer my :w3: , so I'll keep them in reserve. At any rate my move in the game seems more urgent.

he has to answer 3 or he will lose toomuch.

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Post #71 Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:22 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O B O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm expecting this sequence:
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 2 3 . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O 1 O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If this happens, he now has two separated groups, and I can threathen to live in the middle or kill one or the other, while getting thickness on the outside.
Or so I hope.

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Post #72 Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:17 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Am I missing something? Here's how I read it
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 O 2 . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 4 O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O 5 3 X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 8 7 O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not reading farther than this. It might turn into a capturing race but it doesn't look bad for White.

As for my move in the game, since I don't see how this could be bad for me, there is no way I could let Black connect there.
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Post #73 Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:41 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O B . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So far, as expected. I'm still not sure what to play next. Maybe one of the letter moves below:
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W O B . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . a X b X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . c . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . d . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #74 Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 5:01 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is obvious. I reckon Black will try to live inside. I'll figure out how to deal with that after Black plays.
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Post #75 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:51 am 
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Sorry for the delay. :/ Let me know if you want to set a one day per move byo-yomi.
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . B . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Threathen to live here

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Post #76 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:31 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X W X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I need to make sure Black doesn't make two eyes there. If he does, my enclosed group will probably die. So I need to find a move that prevents Black from living locally.

There are two moves I am considering, a and b.

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X b X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . a . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


a limits the eyespace but lets Black make strong shape and play a lot of forcing moves.
b spoils black shape, but lets Black play b to expand his eye space.


Let's start with a.


Here's what might happen after I play :w2: .

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 . O X O O O 4 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 5 X 1 X 3 O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 2 X 7 . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't really see how to kill Black after this. Do you?

Here's another :w2: .

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 3 X 1 X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 7 . . . 2 . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 6 5 X 9 . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black lives.


And another

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O 4 . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 0 X 1 X 3 O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 2 9 . . 8 . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 6 5 X 7 . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . c . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black lives again after c.

Well, I don't know if Black is good at life and death. He might die anyway but I don't want to wager the whole game on this.


As for b, here's what might happen.

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 3 X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 6 . 5 . 9 . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . 8 X 7 . X . 1 . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If Black lives like this, my enclosed group will surely die.


This compromise might be a good option.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 2 . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 1 . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black steals points from me but at least I don't die.

Perhaps this is what'll happen, although I doubt it.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 1 . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This was a tough decision to make. I like a better, but my analysis shows that Black lives after it, so I play b.
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Offline Harleqin
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #77 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:25 am 
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White seems quite oblivious to the fact that he can simply capture some cutting stones to connect his groups in several of his diagrams.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #78 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:13 am 
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if he is afraid of dying and let black go free..he doesnt deserve to give him 8 stones.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . 2 . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 1 . 3 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


all he has to do is cutoff the lifeline then i dont think black can live.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #79 Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:04 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . B . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I feel like I should get out of the lower side, but this move just doesn't get out of my head...

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Offline walleye
 Post subject: Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)
Post #80 Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:59 pm 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X W . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If Black lives, I will make two eyes too.

For instance

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X a . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . 6 X O X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 5 X O 8 . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O 4 3 X . 1 X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I might also play at a instead of :w8: . I think Black has a weakness there.


I wish I could kill it but my surrounding groups are too weak. Perhaps I should have played the d5-d3 sequence earlier.
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