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Post #281 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:33 am 
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Thanks for posting the game, daal. I'm sorry that I had to leave in the middle of the review. Something came up.

Anyway, I would also appreciate feedback on my moves, if people care to review this game. I particularly think that P3 was a bad move by white, however, I'm at a loss for the correct strategy at that point in the game.

I felt that I didn't know what to do at all.

In most games, I feel like there's usually something to do, but around the time I made the P3 move, I really didn't have much direction.

So, I'd particularly appreciate explanation of a plan in that area. Although, any comments are welcome, of course.

By the way, I personally felt comfortable as white around move 68. Was I wrong?

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Post #282 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:38 pm 
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Post #283 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:43 pm 
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Post #284 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:50 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
Thanks for posting the game, daal. I'm sorry that I had to leave in the middle of the review. Something came up.

Anyway, I would also appreciate feedback on my moves, if people care to review this game. I particularly think that P3 was a bad move by white, however, I'm at a loss for the correct strategy at that point in the game.

I felt that I didn't know what to do at all.

In most games, I feel like there's usually something to do, but around the time I made the P3 move, I really didn't have much direction.

So, I'd particularly appreciate explanation of a plan in that area. Although, any comments are welcome, of course.

By the way, I personally felt comfortable as white around move 68. Was I wrong?


P3 does look pretty bad. Black has two weak groups, you should build some thickness in the middle while attacking them and then invade deeply. There's some chance one of them will even die. H16 looks like a good way to keep that top group weak. P3 looks jealous. H3 might be possible, but way too early, I think. Not that I'm stronger than you, just some thoughts.

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Post #285 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:44 pm 
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daniel_the_smith wrote:
Kirby wrote:
Thanks for posting the game, daal. I'm sorry that I had to leave in the middle of the review. Something came up.

Anyway, I would also appreciate feedback on my moves, if people care to review this game. I particularly think that P3 was a bad move by white, however, I'm at a loss for the correct strategy at that point in the game.

I felt that I didn't know what to do at all.

In most games, I feel like there's usually something to do, but around the time I made the P3 move, I really didn't have much direction.

So, I'd particularly appreciate explanation of a plan in that area. Although, any comments are welcome, of course.

By the way, I personally felt comfortable as white around move 68. Was I wrong?


P3 does look pretty bad. Black has two weak groups, you should build some thickness in the middle while attacking them and then invade deeply. There's some chance one of them will even die. H16 looks like a good way to keep that top group weak. P3 looks jealous. H3 might be possible, but way too early, I think. Not that I'm stronger than you, just some thoughts.



Thanks, Daniel. I think that H16 is a good plan. I could get strength by attacking that group, and then switch over to attack the group on the left. I think it's a great strategy. I couldn't really think of anything at this stage in the game. I kept trying to think of a good way to attack the left group directly, but I couldn't think of something that was good. I have a question about that part, but I think I'll open a thread about it to get more discussion.

H3 also seems like a good idea. I didn't even consider it.

The reason I played P3 was that I really wanted to invade at M3, and I was hoping that I could get some aji after his response to it. Playing M3 immediately doesn't seem to work well.

Your choice of wording when you said "jealous" is interesting. I went to a workshop led by Kim Myungwan, and he said that I played in a "jealous" fashion...

I'm not really sure how to fix that, though.

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Post #286 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:38 am 
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Man, I go on vacation for three days and everyone plays all their games! The standings page is finally updated.

Also, MountainGo and I will play Monday afternoon EDT, exact time TBD.

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Post #287 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:11 pm 
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Post #288 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:23 pm 
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I defeated MountainGo by resignation. No one was around to review at the time, so any comments on our play, however brief, are appreciated!


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Post #289 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:26 pm 
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Violence/lindentree and Magicwand/zinger -- Are you guys gonna play your games or what? Maybe we'll get an epic few games out of this!

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Post #290 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:30 pm 
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These games are overdue as of today (unless I missed them):

Winners' bracket:
- lindentree vs Violence
- zinger vs Magicwand
- Jonas vs hoohoo

Losers' bracket:
- k1ndofblue vs Oroth (was scheduled for Aug 15 but I don't think it was played)
- Loons vs Actorios

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Post #291 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:33 pm 
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dfan wrote:
I defeated MountainGo by resignation. No one was around to review at the time, so any comments on our play, however brief, are appreciated!


W48 and the following few white moves seem quite bad. 48 seems bad because W loses all the aji in the corner, and the subsequent moves seem bad because white trades solid cash for a dubious center that doesn't even appear to be as large as the cash black gets.

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Post #292 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:13 pm 
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Violence/lindentree and Magicwand/zinger -- Are you guys gonna play your games or what? Maybe we'll get an epic few games out of this!


Sorry, Violence was busy last week, and I'm busy this week with a job interview. I'll try to get available for the match in the next few days, but it doesn't help that I'm visiting relatives without internet. (on some random person's unreliable wireless at the moment, which also blocks KGS) Anyway, we all know there's only going to be one truly epic match coming out of these next few games.:D

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Post #293 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:42 am 
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Hey all,

Oroth had an issue come up and was unable to make our game this last sunday. We are shooting to get it done this next weekend.

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Post #294 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:54 am 
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Post #295 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:54 pm 
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Post #296 Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:54 am 
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Just got back from holidays. I'll schedule my game with Loons ASAP.

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Post #297 Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:01 pm 
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Guess Violence didn't get around to it, so I'll post the game. I lost by resignation.



Despite some silly blunders on my part, I think I put up a decent fight, at least enough to make it interesting.

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Post #298 Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:28 am 
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Oroth and I just played and he won by resignation. Game probably isn't worth posting.

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Post #299 Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:27 am 
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Oroth and I just played and he won by resignation. Game probably isn't worth posting.

Part of the rules specify it needs to be posted. ;)

Welcome to the club of of those who are completely out of the tournament. Our numbers are slowly growing, and soon, we'll be able to take over!

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Post #300 Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:57 pm 
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daniel_the_smith (lavalamp) and I just finished our game, and he won by resignation.



And we're reviewing the game right now!

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