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Offline CSamurai
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #101 Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:14 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O . . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Normally, you wouldn't hane here. But, white's corner is weak. If they cut my stone off...
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 5 . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O 3 . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O 4 . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


5 becomes problematic for white. I'd like to cut at 3 directly, but..
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . 6 7 8 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 2 5 . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O 1 3 X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O 4 . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


the sequence through 98 leaves me short on liberties.

For right now, I'm just going to play simply, and see how white reacts.
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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #102 Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:01 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O 2 . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Obviously, I can't permit either atari here, so I must extend. This kills that peeping stone from earlier, so it's acceptable. He's going to have to come back and take care of that cut eventually too. It's possible that I might lose a couple of stones in the middle, but they're not too important. Hopefully I can make a little center territory and then make up some ground in endgame.

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Offline CSamurai
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #103 Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:13 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . 3 . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White has chosen to defend simply. Since there's still some aji around my stone, I can let that be for now. The center is much more concerning to me, at this instant.

My move is designed to poke into the center, and limit the chance of white cutting me off. At the same time, it opens up some aji that's left around the akwardness of d11

This is enough to make it mostly sente at this moment. After this move, I plan to break away for a moment to play n2, to quash the submarine invasion that I mentioned earlier. n2 is smallish, but defends against a large invasion, so I want it soon.
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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #104 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:30 am 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O 4 . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . b . . a X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O 4 . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:w94: threatens both a and b, so it's at least sente, assuming he comes up with a suitable way to handle both. After black responds, I'll decide if the follow-up is sente or if it's actually worth enough to take gote.

I'm going to count again soon, and decide if I can make enough in the center to make the game still playable.

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Offline CSamurai
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #105 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:54 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Awww. White's really not messing up a lot here. Hard for me to widen my lead much when they just keel playing well. In fact, with the result on top, I may have slipped to within 10 points or so. With that in mind, I must protect against the submarine on this move. If white tries to surround/kill my group, I've got life on the left.

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[go]$$cm95 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . 7 6 . 3 2 X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X 5 O 4 8 . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X 9 . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . 0 . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . a . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Akward shape is akward, but alive. The center is damaged a little by my life, but not so much that I can't still interfere, and the largest move on the board at this point is the submarine invasion at A if I don't play 1. So, now's the time to take a deep breath, and play the game that I want to play, not the game that fears white.


I think this may be my only move today, I'm exhausted and want to be thinking clearly for what's coming.
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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #106 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:12 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I do some damage, or I resign.

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Offline CSamurai
 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #107 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:16 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 7 O X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Or, you could play the only line I've read out. :)
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 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #108 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:38 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X . O 8 . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Reading... Interesting idea.

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Post #109 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:41 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X 9 O O . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I really don't have much to say about this. I'll have life at the end, but not much else. Which is OK.
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Post #110 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:50 pm 
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I resign.

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Post #111 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:55 pm 
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Thank you for the excellent game!

Why did you resign here, if I may ask?
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Post #112 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:06 pm 
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I was about 15 points behind by my count, and you were about to get the biggest sente moves. There just wasn't any way for me to make up that kind of gap and I don't have the energy to drag it out.

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Post #113 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:14 pm 
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[go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O X . . . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . X 9 O O . . . . X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . b . . O . . O O . |
$$ | . X O O O . . . X , a . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Did you at least consider the possibilities of A and B as major reductions/strength builders? They were the last moves I was terribly worried about.

Good game though. I just read through all the thoughts/comments on my game.

Thanks for the info about Joseki there, Redundant, I'll keep it in mind. I mentioned possible b18 moves because they've given me trouble in the past, but I like your refutation.

Also, you're right, fwiffo, the extension on the left should have been one further, I was really out of it when I played that.

Thank you everyone who took the time to read/comment on the game.

I think leaving the right side so weak was what allowed me to harass you through much of the midgame.

Also, there's a comment in one of my moves about a submarine invasion in k2 that could have made life much more interesting had you played it before I played n2.

Thanks again for playing with me.
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Post #114 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:24 pm 
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Aphelion wrote:
Fwiffo:

Did you consider this? Its sente, no?

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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]


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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O 7 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W 4 2 6 |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X 3 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]


Looks like white gets heavy, for a not much better result. It is sente, but if white hanes on top, black plays a 2 point extension from the wall (6 makes the 3 point extension bad) EDIT: No, wait, 3 point extension already existed. 4th line 1 point hop to avoid getting sealed in, and feels overconcentrated, but optimistic about attacking white's heavy group sooner or later.
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 Post subject: Re: #76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)
Post #115 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:31 pm 
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CSamurai wrote:
Did you at least consider the possibilities of A and B as major reductions/strength builders? They were the last moves I was terribly worried about.

Yeah, but the right side group wasn't in any danger, so they didn't really apply any kind of pressure. They strength at that point wasn't really useful because there weren't any weak groups, and I couldn't use them to make any territory in the center because it was too open on two sides.

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