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 Post subject: 14k v's 3 Dan: Return match..and he still wins...
Post #1 Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:13 pm 
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The ongoing saga. The departmental 3 Dan is still roasting me.

However: Bill Spights "pattern" for countering a 3,3 entry was used no less than three times during this game. I am not sure if Dr Yang is actually be inscrutable here and merely "helping me progress". I did get the impression that the game was passive with the exception of a mistake by me, duly punished around 194.

Here it is in its full glory... As before.. If anyone can give me somthing to help actually give this guy a better game...


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Post #2 Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:13 pm 
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Here are some new patterns. ;)



Edit: Added variations in the top left corner.

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Post #3 Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:06 pm 
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Just a side comment

Bill I always enjoy reading your reviews of games posted to this forum, always very educational. The entire game reviews section is one of the best things about this forum, so thanks for putting so much work into it :)

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Post #4 Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:37 pm 
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I agree with Andd. Even though I am obviously much stronger than 14k, I still learn things and have certain concepts emphasized by reading Bill's comments.

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Post #5 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:40 am 
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Thanks again for these comments... another half hour of pouring over them.......

What amazed me was that the guy must have been adding things up as he went along... and was content not to over punish..

Game three has started.. I now have new patterns...unfortunately he is not playing cricket this time and I've been given no chance to use them :(

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Post #6 Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:46 pm 
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BobC wrote:
... I now have new patterns...unfortunately he is not playing cricket this time and I've been given no chance to use them :(


Oh dear. That's terrible. It looks like you may have to give up memorizing patterns and start learning the ideas behind them. :mrgreen:

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:00 pm 
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brace yourselves.. I upped the aggression ...the current game is very,very nasty :(

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:23 pm 
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BobC wrote:
brace yourselves.. I upped the aggression ...the current game is very,very nasty :(


I've always found trying the old ultraviolence out against much stronger players to be a good way to learn ... while losing by hundreds of points.

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Post #9 Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:15 am 
Looks like a perfectly good game o.O;;

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