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Offline LHM1948
 Post subject: I will pay for games on KGS..Any regular Kyu can apply
Post #1 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:56 am 
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I have found that just because I have a '?' next to my name any time a regularly ranked player is losing to me he disconnects. Do I haver any recourse for these games. It really seems unfair. It has reached a point where I will pay people to play me. Anyone interested let me know.

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Offline explo
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Post #2 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:02 am 
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If it is really too much of a problem, you may try playing the bots until you get a solid rank. They are free and they will not refuse to play you.
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Offline Li Kao
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Post #3 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:04 am 
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Have you tried automatch? In my experience there are very few escapers in automatch games.

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Offline LovroKlc
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Post #4 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:07 am 
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what about just trying wbaduk? :D

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Offline oren
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Post #5 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:12 am 
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You could also ask for games in the lifein19x19.com room. I doubt you're going to find a lot of escapers there. Some people may still get real disconnects though. :)
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Offline kirkmc
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Post #6 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:19 am 
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Li Kao wrote:
Have you tried automatch? In my experience there are very few escapers in automatch games.


If I understand correctly, you lose immediately if you escape in an automatch game.

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Offline Li Kao
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Post #7 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:23 am 
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No you don't. The only difference regarding escapes between automatch and a normal game is that in a normal game when you leave during the first few moves the players can choose not to save the game and thus make it no escape. In ranked automatch games I have an escaper rate in the order of 1%. It's only much higher when I play unranked games against guests.

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Offline hyperpape
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Post #8 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:30 am 
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I've seen several escapers while using automatch.

On the other hand, while I've struggled to get a game with a "?" next to my name, I've never had a problem with opponents escaping. Losing to a "?" player doesn't hurt your rating more than normal. So maybe you just have had bad luck, and it could change.

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Offline stalkor
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Post #9 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:42 am 
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why not try the ASR league:)

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Offline kirkmc
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Post #10 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:22 pm 
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Li Kao wrote:
No you don't. The only difference regarding escapes between automatch and a normal game is that in a normal game when you leave during the first few moves the players can choose not to save the game and thus make it no escape. In ranked automatch games I have an escaper rate in the order of 1%. It's only much higher when I play unranked games against guests.


Oh, I was told otherwise...

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Offline willemien
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Post #11 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:40 pm 
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This is better readable
stalkor wrote:
why not try the ASR league :)

size = 50 makes it very small (around 50%)

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Offline stalkor
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Post #12 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:07 pm 
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didnt want to look like i was advertising the league:) thats why i did it:)

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Offline cdybeijing
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Post #13 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:41 pm 
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Or check out the KGS Teacher Ladder room on KGS.
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Offline tchan001
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Post #14 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:04 am 
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Li Kao wrote:
No you don't. The only difference regarding escapes between automatch and a normal game is that in a normal game when you leave during the first few moves the players can choose not to save the game and thus make it no escape. In ranked automatch games I have an escaper rate in the order of 1%. It's only much higher when I play unranked games against guests.


http://www.gokgs.com/help/automatch.html#faq
Note! As soon as Automatch finds an opponent, the game will begin; it must be played! If you close the game it will be counted as an escaped game, even if no stones were played!

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Offline DrStraw
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Post #15 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:36 am 
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Or check out the KGS Teacher Ladder room on KGS.


That won't work. Rated games are not allowed there.

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Offline emeraldemon
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Post #16 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:02 am 
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I'm sorry players have shown such poor sportsmanship :( . Eventually those escapes will turn into forfeits. One of your escapers has already given you a forfiet, your game vs zlyha in Nov ( look http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=LHM1948&year=2010&month=11 for record).

The KGS Escaper Policy is here:
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