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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #121 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:38 pm 
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That's a move I really need to remember. It's so automatic for someone of my level to just block at S6 - after all, all the cuts are protected. I'm reminded of this funny joseki:

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$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ . . . . . 7 5 . . |
$$ . . . . 6 3 2 8 . |
$$ . . . . 9 4 . . . |
$$ . . . . . 0 . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

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[go]$$Bm11
$$ ------------------
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ . . . . . X . . . |
$$ . . . . . X X 4 . |
$$ . . . 1 O X O O . |
$$ . . . 3 X O . . . |
$$ . . . . 2 O . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

I understand :b15: after its explained to me, but it feel weird and unnatural.

[edit]GARR! Why do I always do that? I bumped magicwand's move onto the previous page - Araban, it's your move in case you missed it.[/edit]

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #122 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:48 pm 
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for ob:
my persepective on aji:

bad: waste of aji.
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[go]$$Wcm42 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O 1 . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

good: i can not waste that aji on few point.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 6 9 . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline jts
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #123 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:02 pm 
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daniel_the_smith wrote:
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I think a move that's sente for both is called "double sente"...


(you can read this to verify, Araban)
I think what Araban is saying that even though MW will have to take gote here, MW has to play the move to deny Araban a big sente move. In which case he's using "reverse sente" right.
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Offline fwiffo
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #124 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:03 pm 
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This game is awesome.

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Offline Jedo
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Post #125 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:33 pm 
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fwiffo wrote:
This game is awesome.


YOU'RE WELCOME

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Post #126 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:39 pm 
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Magicwand says some things that I consider dubious, and undoubtedly has his quirks, but at times like this I think his strength and experience are very very impressive. On reflection his points about aji seem obvious (and strong!), but I doubt I would have not played the aji-keshi move in the game.
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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #127 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:42 pm 
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amnal wrote:
Magicwand says some things that I consider dubious, and undoubtedly has his quirks, but at times like this I think his strength and experience are very very impressive. On reflection his points about aji seem obvious (and strong!), but I doubt I would have not played the aji-keshi move in the game.


I was thinking exactly the same thing. I was considering omitting that move on the right a mistake until I saw what magicwand had in mind. Then I felt rather foolish for not seeing it ... that sort of thing should be obvious somehow
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Offline Aphelion
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #128 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:55 pm 
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Magicwand:

I really really liked your last move and explanations. Please keep them coming.

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Offline Puppycakes
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Post #129 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:34 pm 
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I feel pretty good because I was thinking that magicwand should play that way in reply to araban's push. I was thinking that his push was dubious. Not that he couldn't wipe the floor with me, but when I was around a 7 kyu my 1dan friend showed me that move instead of blocking and pointed out that it doesn't have the shape flaw of allowing a peep and clamping does.
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Offline Violence
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Post #130 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:41 pm 
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Mmm...

We are approaching the part of the game where Solch is at his strongest, imo.

I feel like the real show is going to begin soon.
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Offline Solomon
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Post #131 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:31 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , 5 . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It was mostly a debate between :b5: and one stone above; seeing how the situation at the bottom didn't turn out very well, I need to push to the limit.
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Offline Solomon
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Post #132 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:49 am 
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Just thought I'd do some reviewing over the first 45 moves, brief thoughts:

[Chew as Mod]Edited to fix sgf-full tag[/mod]

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Post #133 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:56 am 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #134 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:16 am 
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Mmm...

We are approaching the part of the game where Solch is at his strongest, imo.

...


Do you simply mean the "middle game", or something more specific?

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #135 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:47 am 
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for obs:
if he gives me corner life aji then i will play slow and that is enough.
i think 47 below is correct response for black. (what do i know..i am only 4 dan)
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . 8 . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . 7 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


if he gives me hanne then i will use that to attack his lonely stone.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . 8 7 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #136 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:30 am 
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for obs:
what is going on in my head:
upper left corner is my main concern and i am sure it is my opponents focus also.
a through f are points i considered in my reading.
i decided that point a is clean and simple so i think i will play there.
but the question is WHEN???

as i said before, you dont have to play there if your opponent is not willing to play there.
he will not try anything now because he will lose sente and i will get my compensation.
but if i play there it is big and clean up all aji.
also i will have followup defense move that is almost sente at "d"
(it is sente because his group is weak and will be attacked if he tenuki)
which mean that i have the flow and win easily.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . e . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . a O . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . b . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . d f . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , 5 . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #137 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:39 am 
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@MW: You seem to be making a lot more comments this game. Thanks. I'm really enjoying reading them.

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Post #138 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:44 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . 7 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , . . X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

You can't keep both the corner territory and the side territory in this case. Why not? Because there is just too much space on the side, and the shimari, as solid as it may look, still has enough aji. So if I can't keep both, what should I strive to keep? In this case I think the side is more important because White has pretty strong groups both below and to the left. If I let him have the side, R10 will be Image.

I'd also like to throw out that this is a probe commonly seen in pro openings...but a lot of people who play it really don't understand it (you can tell by their follow-up). I'm not saying this applies for my opponent, but for kyu players who go over pro games and monkey-see-monkey-do their moves. That's a pitfall of analyzing pro games carelessly.
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #139 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:45 pm 
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i pull back one more space to make sure he doesnt jump in. i think i can afford that.
there is still a aji that bother my mind in my upper side, namely point "a"
next few move will be very important for both of us.
i also have invasion at "b" but i think playing upper right corner will be simpler for me.
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Offline Solomon
 Post subject: Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand
Post #140 Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:07 pm 
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This move has two purposes. Obviously it helps my center group (although it wasn't in any danger, it was still slightly concerning), but more importantly it will allow me to invade the top without any worries. The value of my move can be clearly seen if he plays where I play:

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Also, if I separate J9 from H5 it will become troublesome for W. So I guess there are 3 purposes.
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