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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #1 Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:04 pm 
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This was a very fun game, as I've said numerous times already (lol). And I already know I played this game pretty fast. Still a habit I need to break. This game was with Cyclops. I'm not sure I could've won without the 2 stones.

Actually, looking back, I feel confident I should have lost this game.


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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #2 Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:20 pm 
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Offline Tryphon
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Post #3 Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:21 pm 
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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #4 Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:28 pm 
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Tryphon wrote:
Some guarantees : no comments :)


Ha ha ha.

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Offline hailthorn011
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #5 Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:34 pm 
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Redundant wrote:
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Thank you for the review. You pointed out a lot of things that make sense. And it was quite easy to understand, too. Hopefully these are things I'll start to remember.

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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #6 Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:58 pm 
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Move 12 is not joseki: you need a pincer stone for it to be joseki. Joseki is q13 or n16
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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #7 Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:11 pm 
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Shaddy wrote:
Move 12 is not joseki: you need a pincer stone for it to be joseki.


Yeah, looks like 85% or more of the time when pros play that there's a stone somewhere along the side:

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Shaddy wrote:
Joseki is q13 or n16


Agree, that seems to be played when there's no pincer:

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Also, this is played occasionally when there's no pincer:

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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #8 Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:30 am 
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Thx for the comments so far. Mostly concerning black.
Hailthorn deserved his victory. He punished my many errors very well, most of the time. I still would like to get some comments on my play in this game. In the sgf I included some lessons I learnt already from this game. All comments are welcome.

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Offline HermanHiddema
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #9 Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:05 am 
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Some more comments, focused mostly on white:



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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: Re: hailthorn VS Mokum (Hahn Tournament)
Post #10 Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:49 pm 
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Thx Herman,

Many lessons learnt!
- 1,2,3 principle
- being more optimistic to avoid reckless moves
- keep concentrated in the endgame, play your own speed.
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