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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: 126. EdLee vs Loons
Post #121 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:36 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoners: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

After trying to read a good result, I have a conclusion.

Everything is complicated and it's hard to be sure something is bad.

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Post #122 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:15 pm 
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First feeling is the simple block... :study:
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . 1 X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
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Post #123 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 5:38 pm 
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In retrospect...
...I'm now guessing when Loons played :b49:, he considered (a) and (b) miai.
Of course I considered :w50: at (a), but I missed :b51:(a) :P.
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[go]$$Bm49
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . a . 1 . b . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
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Post #124 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:01 pm 
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Now pondering another obvious candidate, the kosumi:
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . W . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
(For beginners, mostly?) In general, the large knight has weaknesses at (a) and (b),
so the above kosumi :w1: together with :wc: would hit both spots.
However, general shape ideas are necessary but not sufficient --
we must take into account the specific local and global consequences.
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[go]$$W
$$ . . . . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . a . X . . .
$$ . . . X . b . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . .
$$ . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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Post #125 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:09 pm 
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Just being silly... :batman:
If we were playing Pente, I'd have (a) and (b) miai to win;
but Loons won a long time ago with :b47:: :mrgreen:
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[go]$$Bm47
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W . X . . . O B . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . W . . X O O B O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . W . . O X 1 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . W . . O B X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . b . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
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[go]$$Wm52 Prisoners: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Let's play Pente! :twisted:
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Post #127 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:07 pm 
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General ideas-- Variation 1:
( if :w52: at (a) instead, I cannot jump to :w2: )
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . 2 . O a X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
Variation 2:
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . 1 O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
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Post #128 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:34 pm 
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Naturally, Ed plays what I had all-but-convinced-myself he wouldn't play. I guess this leaves me with the least eye-space on top, but leaves aji (like a possibly useful forcing move at 'a' (and then even c would be forcing, pretty sure)) compared to J18 (I think).

90% sure I'm going to two space jump to G14 and use white's cut aji to walk out.

I've also decided I probably want to answer x with y here, feels very solid.

I'm speculating whether this order of moves has a difference to playing the jump to G14 first :P. (And also making more checks for pitfalls!)
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[go]$$Bcm53 Prisoners: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O b B . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X a O d . B O O X W . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . c O . . O X X X W . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . 1 . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . y X x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Edit;
PS: The marked exchange seems to have been good for white (similar territory, similar amount of aji maybe). I'm not entirely confident my result in top left is going to be even compensation.

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Post #129 Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:44 am 
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[go]$$Bcm53 Prisoners: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . 1 . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Eh, this just tickled my fancy at the moment. Anyway, while I'm sure the current situation is pretty exciting, we're going to do something else. Don't worry, I think H17 is sente against life so I'm not really running with a knight's move.

Many Major Mistakes: A Recap So Far
[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[EdLee]PB[Loons]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[dr]
;W[cq]
;B[iq]
;W[qn]
;B[np]
;W[rp]
;B[ql]
;W[qq]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[pn]
;W[or]
;B[rn]
;W[mq]TR[mp]C[I thought black's local followup was going to be big somehow and sometime. I was wrong.]
;B[pf]C[I think this was a surprisingly large mistake. Top and C14 are not miai.]
;W[jd]
;B[cf]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[ef]
;B[ce]TR[cd]C[Given I decided eventually to take gote over here anyway, I should have chosen a more interesting joseki.]
;W[cd]
;B[cj]
;W[qh]TR[oh]C[I think just responding (cap) now may have been better.]
;B[lc]
;W[ke]
;B[jb]TR[oh]C[Black top is becoming thin, considering R12. Maybe still the cap.]
;W[pc]
;B[oc]C[(Remembering black has become thin, white is going to get something here)]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]TR[pe]C[My initially planeed move at least wouldn't have had the game's weakness.]
;W[od]
;B[pe]
;W[nc]
;B[ob]
;W[nb]C[this exchange really favored white, even considering R13 was tenukied earlier.]
;B[nd]
;W[md]
;B[oe]
;W[ne]
;B[od]
;W[mc]
;B[gc]C[Who knows. It looked ok?]
;W[ic]
;B[ec]
;W[hb]C[Not yet clear how black has gained from sacrificing K18 stones.])[/sgf-full]
Why is it that I can not get any sgf uploads to work except by copying their text...

Addendum: If Ed has made any mistakes yet, I have not caught them.


My mistakes haven't even been hard to spot. I feel like I just haven't been bringing my A game. I'll try to improve on that for the next two hundred moves.

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Wheee! Interesting. :study:
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First feeling is exploit the marked weak spots... :study:
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . C . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . C . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
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Var 1. B connects:
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . O 8 X . . . O X .
$$ | . . . . X . X 6 O . . X O O X O
$$ | . . O O . . 4 3 7 O . . O X X X
$$ | . . X . . . 1 2 . . O . . O X X
$$ | . . X O O . 5 X . . . . . . . X
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Var 2. B ponnuki:
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . O 7 X . . . O X .
$$ | . . . . X . X 6 O 9 . X O O X O
$$ | . . O O . . 4 3 8 O . . O X X X
$$ | . . X . . . 1 2 . . O . . O X X
$$ | . . X O O . 5 X . . . . . . . X
$$ | . . . X . . . 0 . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Var 3. B connects + ponnuki:
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . 9 8 W 6 X . . . O X .
$$ | . . . . X 7 X 4 O . . X O O X O
$$ | . . O O . . 3 5 . O . . O X X X
$$ | . . X . . . 1 2 . . O . . O X X
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Var 4. Broken shape for W:
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . O 5 X . . . O X .
$$ | . . . . X . X 4 O . . X O O X O
$$ | . . O O . . 3 6 . O . . O X X X
$$ | . . X . . . 1 2 . . O . . O X X
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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Var 5. Another crazy idea is this funny empty triangle --
just take the cash at (a) and (b) first, and let B deal with the weak group.
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . a . . . . . O . X . b . O X .
$$ | . . . 1 X . X . O . . X O O X O
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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[go]$$Wm54 Prisoners: :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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I thought I wasn't too crazy about the four variations in post 132 --
they're either OK for B, so-so for W, not so good for W, or unclear.
Also, if B gets something like :b1:, then suddenly even my corner :wc: group is weak.
So I decided to make sure my corner is OK first, take the cash, and see what B does.
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 1 . . . . O . X . . . O X .
$$ | . . . . X . X . O . . X O O X O
$$ | . . O W . . . . . O . . O X X X
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: 126. EdLee vs Loons
Post #137 Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:55 am 
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[go]$$Bc
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O B . B . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . a . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . l . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . m . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . n o . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . x X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

I'm not entirely convinced I have to defend with eg. 'a' now (which will likely be gote, especially as Ed fixing his cut is sente) after Ed's very defensive move, pending further reading of course. I would love to take the first move on the right with 'l', 'm', 'n' or 'o'. And I am in a permanent state of wanting to play 'x'.

I'm not really sure how protective I have to be of the marked stones, anyway (as long as Ed doesn't manage to capture them in a large way).

One of my weaknesses is that I'm not protective enough of my weak stones, so I will put a fair bit more thought into this.

Edit: I thought I'd briefly mention what we're all doubtless thinking; Ed's move makes a big, carpenter's square-esque eye in the corner. Not the most unconditionally alive of shapes. I wonder if I could aim at aiming at aiming at exploiting that somehow (which might actually be a point in favour of playing a slowish defence now, but who knows.).


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[go]$$Bcm55
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . b . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X a . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Just from some local speculative reading (black playing 'a' cut next, white playing 'b' cut next...), I am now feeling very against tenuki. Everything seems too volatile. :b55: just occurred to me and I'm quite enamored with it, though it has no really obvious property other than helping my top group in a centrewards sort of way. I'll sleep on it. Surely a play on the right is big.

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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: 126. EdLee vs Loons
Post #138 Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:35 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm55
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

I guess I am a player who plays impulsively, no matter how long I spend thinking.

One thought is that Ed's lone stone on the right isn't exactly heavy; sabaki seems well possible if I play there next. And top becomes dangerous for me if Ed plays there next. My move doesn't feel slow or heavy to me, but some complications remain open; we'll see what Ed has in mind.

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Post #139 Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:38 pm 
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First feeling is the probe :w1:... :study:
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X .
$$ | . . . O X . X . O . .
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . .
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 126. EdLee vs Loons
Post #140 Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:31 am 
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Something for later. W2 is necessary.
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[go]$$Bcm01
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X . X . O . . X O O X O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . O . 2 O X X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O . 1 O X X X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . O . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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