(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[2400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
PW[tictac]PB[Sevis]WR[6k]BR[7k]DT[2011-07-30]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[tictac [6k]: hello
Sevis [7k]: Hello, have fun.
tictac [6k]: finally we met
tictac [6k]: *meet
tictac [6k]: hqve fun
Sevis [7k]: Indeed! I hope your vacation went well. ^^
]RE[W+12.50]
;B[qd]BL[2374.743]C[tictac [6k]: was nice thqnk you
]
;W[dp]WL[2391.788]
;B[dd]BL[2366.643]
;W[pp]WL[2351.708]C[Sevis [7k]: I wonder how many people will gather to watch... I have to say, I'm a little worried.

]
;B[kc]BL[2347.816]C[tictac [6k]: not used to so much time ...
Children [?]: coi la sevis
tictac [6k]: o i am worried too .. glad thqt you are too ^^
Sevis [7k]: coi la'oi Children do'u
Children [?]: can you even see my messages?
Children [?]: oh
Children [?]:

Children [?]: that's weird, that's like cheating
Children [?]: is this a real tourney match?
tictac [6k]: ususalyy i play the chinse but i rarely face it
]
;W[pg]WL[2275.779]C[Children [?]: mi'e la selpa'i
Sevis [7k]: I've been playing games in this time setting the last week... And AGA rules. But, hey the time means there's chance to talk.
Sevis [7k]: (do tell me to shut up when I get on your nerves.

)
Sevis [7k]: I don't like the Chinese much.
Sevis [7k]: I'm not sure why I played it, really.
Sevis [7k]: Got tired of 3-5s, I guess.
tictac [6k]: i knew its an idea.... but no idea of the following.... qt least it twards your goal of dev; the right
tictac [6k]: i *think* thqt Q 10 is normal here for b
]
(;B[cn]BL[2295.528]C[tictac [6k]: @dusk but this is not normal
tictac [6k]: ?
Bilapidate [1k]: Tenuki not too good
DuskEagle [3d]: I've never seen it
tictac [6k]: ok
]
;W[fp]WL[2238.311]C[tictac [6k]: no talking is noce it is not frequent
]
;B[bp]BL[2274.524]C[tictac [6k]: but i do feel i now you q little fron l19
]
;W[cq]WL[2223.382]C[DuskEagle [3d]: as white I would P18 or something here
]
;B[dl]BL[2271.563]C[Bilapidate [1k]: P16 now big for W
DuskEagle [3d]: P16*
tictac [6k]: as i remembered thqt Q13/q10 were miai i decided to take both
tictac [6k]: but yes P16 seems more natural
]
;W[pj]WL[2215.656]C[Sevis [7k]: Yeah, I don't talk much. Posted some games for review, and currently playing a malkovich with a scary fuseki.
]
(;B[qn]BL[2219.985]C[tictac [6k]: (i meant talking IS nice not no talking is nice

)
Sevis [7k]: (hah, yeah, I guessed that. ^^
Sevis [7k]: )
Bilapidate [1k]: Sweep?
DuskEagle [3d]: black is greedy here?
DuskEagle [3d]: no question mark intended
tictac [6k]: not sure qbout that you just put my Q10 stone to use
tictac [6k]: what tdo you mean sweep ?
Bilapidate [1k]: S5
tictac [6k]: oh ok
Sevis [7k]: Felt like I had to approach, and O3 seemed to give you a very nice position on the right.
Bilapidate [1k]: AKA 'foot sweep'
Sevis [7k]: Never played S5...
tictac [6k]: i dont underdtans the difference with hte quick so i never plqy it
tictac [6k]: sorry about the typos i have an azerty keyboard
DuskEagle [3d]: O3 is better I think, white still has many invasion points. Here, R6 will get attacked
tictac [6k]: and i am typing with my box glove as usual
Bilapidate [1k]: Yeah, bottom side bigger
tictac [6k]: what i thought too yeah
]
;W[qo]WL[2183.771]C[Sevis [7k]: (I guessed that with `not frequent', you meant that most games don't have it.)
]
;B[pn]BL[2200.352]C[Children [?]: u'i .i lo nu bu'u zgana cu cizra milxe vau vau pei
tictac [6k]: yes
]
;W[nq]WL[2171.778]
;B[qk]BL[2196.448]C[Children [?]: *lo nu mi bu'u zgana
tictac [6k]: i think its often better to Q8 or R8
Bilapidate [1k]: Mo17, already B in trouble

tictac [6k]: here ist like you ignored q shoulder hit
tictac [6k]: ok
]
(;W[pk]WL[2163.836]C[Bilapidate [1k]: *Move 17
Bilapidate [1k]: R10
tictac [6k]: good direction ? or R10 rather ?
Bilapidate [1k]: R10, not Q9
tictac [6k]: ok
]
;B[qj]BL[2191.405]
;W[qi]WL[2158.067]
;B[pl]BL[2186.969]
;W[ol]WL[2153.211]
;B[ql]BL[2154.011]
;W[ri]WL[2118.669]C[DuskEagle [3d]: O6 better
Bilapidate [1k]: Run
Sevis [7k]: Hm, alright.
tictac [6k]: mm yes and Q10 is not thqt healty i cant pursue qs i want
]
(;B[rj]BL[2124.046]
;W[om]WL[2103.756]
(;B[on]BL[2118.87]C[Bilapidate [1k]: How about Q5 instead? Still can run
]
;W[nn]WL[2065.782]C[DuskEagle [3d]: black shouldn't s10
]
;B[iq]BL[2086.611]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Wait...P6?
tictac [6k]: mm was it the most urgnet for B ? cqnt decide
tictac [6k]: @ sevis/ i see now but didnt saw at the time
tictac [6k]: so bqck to J3 ?
Sevis [7k]: Yes, I do see now.
Bilapidate [1k]: Y, sure
Sevis [7k]: Yep.
]
;W[kq]WL[2040.633]C[tictac [6k]: goo direction or not ?
tictac [6k]: * good
Bilapidate [1k]: Can't give B M3
Bilapidate [1k]: Prob best, as long as W has B3
tictac [6k]: i think that J3/B3 qre sort of miai but here B3 is q bit submissive no ?
]
;B[gq]BL[2055.153]
;W[fq]WL[2029.709]C[Sevis [7k]: I have this mildly irritating feeling that my right group is heavy enough to slowly go down, and eventually fall off the goban. xD
]
;B[gr]BL[2023.362]C[Children [?]: .i re do tsali
]
;W[gp]WL[1914.708]
;B[hp]BL[2017.523]
(;W[bq]WL[1888.044]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Yes, paranoid
tictac [6k]: so i didnt dare wait ti take B3 more
Bilapidate [1k]: Save a last ditch survival method
Bilapidate [1k]: Running out is bigger
tictac [6k]: so even here its too early ?
Bilapidate [1k]: Think so. DE?
Sevis [7k]: One moment.
DuskEagle [3d]: sorry, wasn't watching
tictac [6k]: hehe her ethe estimator give b+25
DuskEagle [3d]: G2 is wrong, but I'm looking at S5 - does this kill black?
Bilapidate [1k]: What B do here? L4?
tictac [6k]: so DE do you think B3 too early ? i tought i wanted to be strong before attacking
Sevis [7k]: Sorry, back.
Bilapidate [1k]: Q7 was big move even late in game
tictac [6k]: do let me know if i am too slow / dont stop where you want sev
DuskEagle [3d]: b3 is trying to make corner territory, but you're already undercut
Sevis [7k]: Going good. ^^
tictac [6k]: in my mind b3 wa s making an eye
Bilapidate [1k]: Does get eye; just gets eye slowly
DuskEagle [3d]: yeah... I'm not sure what's best. This sequence jsut feels odd to me
tictac [6k]: ok
]
;B[fr]BL[2012.385]
;W[er]WL[1880.856]
;B[jr]BL[2010.08]
;W[kr]WL[1877.165]
;B[dh]BL[1989.974]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Firsy player to 6th rank seems to get advantage
Bilapidate [1k]: *First
Bilapidate [1k]: Yang would have heart attack seeing D12
tictac [6k]: really ? i liked it for B
Sevis [7k]: I'm sorry, it really wasn't my intention to kill off any pros.
tictac [6k]: whqts worng with it
Bilapidate [1k]: Two gaps
Bilapidate [1k]: C12? C11?
Sevis [7k]: Would C14 be better?
Bilapidate [1k]: That better also
DuskEagle [3d]: I like C14 personally
Bilapidate [1k]: Only one invasion point then
DuskEagle [3d]: P16 maybe even better
Sevis [7k]: Oh, yes, P16 is still there...
DuskEagle [3d]: and S5...
tictac [6k]: so was the san san invasion a mistake ? solved the problem of the 2 gaps
Bilapidate [1k]: San-san?
Sevis [7k]: san-san seemed premature.
]
;W[cc]WL[1840.131]
;B[cd]BL[1964.297]C[DuskEagle [3d]: seems reasonable to me, but I'm not a theory-expert
DuskEagle [3d]: i need to improve there

Bilapidate [1k]: Does seem to fix things for B
tictac [6k]: well if its semms reasonnablme to you it should be p:ayable by me ... but your comments on the right side did put doubt into my mind
]
;W[dc]WL[1836.394]
;B[ec]BL[1962.088]
;W[eb]WL[1833.962]
;B[fc]BL[1959.423]
;W[bd]WL[1829.945]
;B[be]BL[1957.871]
;W[bc]WL[1828.846]
;B[cf]BL[1952.13]
;W[fb]WL[1826.288]C[Sevis [7k]: I remember thinking `Yay, something to balance the influence of P8'.
]
;B[gc]BL[1950.108]C[tictac [6k]: yes.... but i have 3 corners ^^¨
DuskEagle [3d]: now white P16 or P17?
tictac [6k]: u do hqve q big right of courcse
Bilapidate [1k]: I thin corner sequence good for B
]
;W[od]WL[1813.802]C[tictac [6k]: finally
tictac [6k]: i heard your telepathic ries for p16
Bilapidate [1k]: P17, I hope
]
(;B[pe]BL[1940.568]C[Sevis [7k]: No, weird, improvised weird stuff.
Sevis [7k]: Probably not very good.
DuskEagle [3d]: hehe, gotta love that stuff
tictac [6k]: i felt it was weird but i think i faild to exploit it
Bilapidate [1k]: Maybe P15?
Sevis [7k]: Although I think being allowed to play P14 made it worth it.
]
;W[oe]WL[1807.068]
;B[pf]BL[1937.816]
(;W[pc]WL[1693.549]C[Bilapidate [1k]: P15 clearly a point that W wants
DuskEagle [3d]: P14 only mov
tictac [6k]: exaclty i should have plaued P14
Bilapidate [1k]: R17 good here
tictac [6k]: wanted to take a base before being cut
]
;B[qg]BL[1931.773]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Noooo. R17 was the move
]
;W[ph]WL[1683.517]
;B[qc]BL[1928.642]
(;W[ld]WL[1653.116]
;B[pb]BL[1911.331]
;W[ob]WL[1643.105]
;B[pd]BL[1909.299]
;W[oc]WL[1640.389]
;B[of]BL[1904.957]C[Bilapidate [1k]: M16?
tictac [6k]: here i look stupid
Bilapidate [1k]: W wanted M16
Bilapidate [1k]: Huge move for B
tictac [6k]: M 16 is nice Bur not worth P14 i think ?
Bilapidate [1k]: Ooops
Bilapidate [1k]: I mean P14 huge
Bilapidate [1k]: W wants P14 too
Sevis [7k]: W wants a lot.

Bilapidate [1k]: instead of M16
tictac [6k]: yes ... i thought he would answer M 16 qnd then i ll get P14
tictac [6k]: i mean here at 67
Bilapidate [1k]: BRB
tictac [6k]: k
tictac [6k]: broken shqpe for W, P 17 not alive
]
;W[kd]WL[1633.236]
;B[jc]BL[1902.247]
;W[lc]WL[1630.688]
(;B[op]BL[1873.786]C[tictac [6k]: good for B i think
Sevis [7k]: Yeah, quite certainly.
Sevis [7k]: If not for P14, I'd have lost by far more.
tictac [6k]: but i felt more confortable with M17
Sevis [7k]: May I have control for a moment?
tictac [6k]: sure
tictac [6k]: yes better for W
Sevis [7k]: But, oh well, I got some broken shape, too.
Sevis [7k]: S11.
Sevis [7k]: I had to play S13 much earlier...
tictac [6k]: well it ws gote
Sevis [7k]: True.
tictac [6k]: S14 sente for me, s13 gote for you so hqrd to deny me
Bilapidate [1k]: P4 seems aji keshi
Sevis [7k]: Hmm... aji of what?
Bilapidate [1k]: Natural response is P3 - easy ter for W
tictac [6k]: aji of R3 invasion mabe
Bilapidate [1k]: but still does not get B out
Bilapidate [1k]: O5 maybe here
Bilapidate [1k]: Interesting tactics
]
(;W[oq]WL[1626.428]
;B[no]BL[1857.111]
(;W[mn]WL[1599.457]C[tictac [6k]: maybe cowardly
tictac [6k]: i am a coward usually
Bilapidate [1k]: Now W stronger on both sides of running group
Sevis [7k]: O4 forces black to connect, then white can N5.
DuskEagle [3d]: i think it's better to not O4
Bilapidate [1k]: W N6 was fine
]
;B[mo]BL[1851.876]
;W[lo]WL[1594.404]C[tictac [6k]: i can here Ed lee grumbling qbout the broken shqpe qt Q 13-p15 from here ....
Sevis [7k]: Haha.
]
;B[ro]BL[1735.18]
;W[rp]WL[1588.72]
;B[po]BL[1730.797]
;W[qp]WL[1584.106]
;B[rm]BL[1723.888]C[Sevis [7k]: I can hear a mysterious voice whispering ``Where are your eyes...? Show me your eyes..!''
Bilapidate [1k]: That's just us kibitzers
Sevis [7k]: Now that I think about it, it's a little creepy.
Bilapidate [1k]: W keeps getting stronger here
tictac [6k]: live in gote finally
DuskEagle [3d]: is it alive?
tictac [6k]: yes but here i had no idae what to do with the strenght
DuskEagle [3d]: Q7?
]
(;W[dj]WL[1495.576]C[tictac [6k]: good reduction or not ?
Bilapidate [1k]: Of course, the important thing here is to remember that B should never let this happen
Bilapidate [1k]: Good
tictac [6k]: you mean the life in gote
Bilapidate [1k]: Yeah. Should have run
tictac [6k]: ok
Bilapidate [1k]: D0 good timing for W
DuskEagle [3d]: D10 good
tictac [6k]: i myself am often tempted with local life
Bilapidate [1k]: *D10
]
;B[ej]BL[1700.699]
;W[ek]WL[1489.783]
;B[dk]BL[1698.442]
;W[ei]WL[1487.185]C[tictac [6k]: F 10 ?
]
(;B[di]BL[1695.201]
;W[fj]WL[1485.653]
;B[cj]BL[1693.644]C[DuskEagle [3d]: i have to go now though so cya guys
Bilapidate [1k]: Bye DE
tictac [6k]: c u thanks
Sevis [7k]: Bye, DuskEagle.
Sevis [7k]: Thanks for the review. ^^
tictac [6k]: yes thx a lot
Bilapidate [1k]: B may be strong enough to play 87 differently
tictac [6k]: is it a normal seq her ewith the ponuki ?
]
;W[ho]WL[1453.39]C[tictac [6k]: but then i dont fill ... probably a mistake ,
Bilapidate [1k]: Now W winning
tictac [6k]: really ?
Bilapidate [1k]: Ponnuki neutralizes all of B's future potential
tictac [6k]: just becasue of the ponnuki ,
Bilapidate [1k]: B tapped out
tictac [6k]: i so didnt see it that way
Bilapidate [1k]: W may get more ter, but not much potential for B
tictac [6k]: but now it make sense
tictac [6k]: more or less what happend indeed but i didnt see it coming from that exchange
tictac [6k]: to mee it just looked like a shallow reduction
Bilapidate [1k]: Pon like that is pro technique, BTW
Bilapidate [1k]: Seen them use it to reduce
tictac [6k]: i woul blush if i didnt know it was more or less forced on me
Bilapidate [1k]: Just say you discovered it independently
Bilapidate [1k]: We wont tell
tictac [6k]: btw bil what is your nock on L19 ,
tictac [6k]: * nickname
Bilapidate [1k]: Am Joaz
tictac [6k]: ahh ok
Sevis [7k]: Oh!
Sevis [7k]: /me hadn't recognised you.
tictac [6k]: i actually had an hint when you mentionned pro technique
Bilapidate [1k]: This is my 'learn how KGS works' account
Sevis [7k]: Ah
tictac [6k]: and also "spy incognito on L19 tpurney game" account ^^
tictac [6k]: we wont tell
Bilapidate [1k]:

tictac [6k]: ^^
tictac [6k]: need to go but i ll post it on l19 as always
tictac [6k]: thans for the game sevis; very intersting
Sevis [7k]: Alright. I'm going to go too, I think, people are trying to speak to me.
tictac [6k]: and thanks for the comments joaz
Sevis [7k]: Thank you, too, haven't had anything as exciting as this one in a while.
Sevis [7k]: Thanks for the review, Bilapidate. ^^
tictac [6k]: i seldom hqve close game / usually one big mistake decie it quick one way or the other
Sevis [7k]: Do you usually play blitz?
Bilapidate [1k]: Pardon. Puking cat. BRB
tictac [6k]: no 20
tictac [6k]: 20 min
tictac [6k]: but still
Sevis [7k]: Ah, alright.
tictac [6k]: see u , nice game
Sevis [7k]: Bye. ^^
]
;B[sp]BL[1684.351]
;W[rq]WL[1435.346]
;B[io]BL[1678.955]
;W[jn]WL[1363.912]C[redundant [1k]: life tournament game?
]
;B[in]BL[1655.116]C[Sevis [7k]: Hey, now I can hear Ed Lee, too.

]
;W[jm]WL[1347.482]
;B[im]BL[1651.077]
;W[il]WL[1341.805]C[Bilapidate [1k]: @Red: I believe so
]
;B[ng]BL[1640.961]
;W[mi]WL[1315.927]
;B[ni]BL[1628.69]
;W[nj]WL[1279.805]
;B[oi]BL[1622.675]
;W[pi]WL[1261.001]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Maybe a bit of an overplay by B
]
;B[oj]BL[1607.223]C[Bilapidate [1k]: P13 by W leave two cuts
]
;W[nk]WL[1245.031]
;B[mh]BL[1598.698]
;W[ok]WL[1240.432]
;B[og]BL[1590.153]
;W[lb]WL[1233.791]
;B[li]BL[1564.006]
;W[lj]WL[1219.561]
;B[mj]BL[1557.493]
;W[mk]WL[1216.646]
;B[kj]BL[1553.711]
;W[lk]WL[1211.389]
;B[kh]BL[1548.226]
;W[jk]WL[1190.875]C[Bilapidate [1k]: M12 only move, right?
]
;B[kk]BL[1537.737]
;W[kl]WL[1188.792]
;B[jo]BL[1535.693]
;W[ko]WL[1184.038]
;B[ks]BL[1495.788]
;W[ls]WL[1179.261]
;B[js]BL[1494.009]
;W[mr]WL[1173.411]
;B[mp]BL[1484.086]
;W[jp]WL[1144.521]
;B[jq]BL[1475.415]
;W[jj]WL[1108.514]
;B[ki]BL[1450.775]
;W[ih]WL[1072.789]
;B[gg]BL[1439.02]
;W[ge]WL[1051.58]
;B[ff]BL[1411.1]
;W[gf]WL[1040.677]
;B[fe]BL[1404.297]
;W[hg]WL[1038.169]
;B[gh]BL[1384.293]C[Sevis [7k]: /me counts again, hoping to have forgotten a zero somewhere.
]
;W[hj]WL[986.901]
;B[gm]BL[1371.125]
;W[gn]WL[946.548]C[Bilapidate [1k]: W is analyzing H2...
]
;B[hn]BL[1357.438]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Or has fallen asleep
]
;W[fn]WL[927.459]
;B[es]BL[1353.094]
;W[dr]WL[921.806]
;B[sq]BL[1348.745]
;W[sr]WL[919.627]
;B[so]BL[1346.236]
;W[rr]WL[918.53]
;B[do]BL[1311.046]
;W[bo]WL[905.907]
;B[bn]BL[1307.93]C[Children [?]: co'o
]
;W[ao]WL[874.227]
;B[an]BL[1303.604]C[Children [?]: .i a'o do jinga
]
;W[co]WL[855.814]
;B[eo]BL[1296.261]C[Bilapidate [1k]: E6
DuskEagle [3d]: A5 a mistake - if white captuers at C4 he'd have the first-line hane later
]
;W[eh]WL[834.958]
;B[eg]BL[1290.622]
;W[sf]WL[804.176]
;B[sg]BL[1283.122]
;W[rg]WL[798.476]
;B[rf]BL[1281.637]
;W[sh]WL[793.08]
;B[se]BL[1280.361]
;W[sg]WL[779.443]
;B[re]BL[1274.858]
;W[mf]WL[755.38]
;B[gb]BL[1268.62]
;W[jd]WL[677.352]
;B[id]BL[1260.589]
;W[ie]WL[661.86]
;B[hd]BL[1257.952]
;W[ib]WL[640.323]
;B[fa]BL[1230.559]
;W[da]WL[634.811]
;B[ic]BL[1228.012]
;W[jb]WL[627.078]
;B[kb]BL[1223.691]
;W[ka]WL[625.229]
;B[hb]BL[1216.568]C[Bilapidate [1k]: E6 still kills something
]
;W[la]WL[605.622]C[DuskEagle [3d]: E6 D6?
]
;B[ji]BL[1189.1]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Then black is cut off
]
;W[kf]WL[586.559]
;B[he]BL[1185.853]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Ooops...maybe B had 2 eyes anyway
DuskEagle [3d]: if white h2, black h1
]
;W[if]WL[550.436]
;B[gd]BL[1182.351]
;W[em]WL[485.785]
;B[dm]BL[1169.064]
;W[hl]WL[481.227]C[Bilapidate [1k]: W ahead by komi?
DuskEagle [3d]: R18 is a big point right now
]
;B[el]BL[1139.687]C[DuskEagle [3d]: i'm still trying to count
]
;W[fl]WL[467.946]
;B[en]BL[1133.247]
;W[fm]WL[449.921]
;B[hm]BL[1127.951]
;W[qb]WL[439.745]
;B[rb]BL[1125.006]
;W[pa]WL[428.496]C[DuskEagle [3d]: i think white wins
]
;B[ra]BL[1123.227]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Certainly now
DuskEagle [3d]: yeah, he was winning without that, but now it's for sure, unless he dies in the top left, which he shouldn't
]
;W[ds]WL[367.182]
;B[ej]BL[1114.327]
;W[fi]WL[348.076]
;B[fk]BL[1109.57]
;W[gk]WL[346.378]C[Bilapidate [1k]: W P7 is interesting if B gets careless
]
;B[fs]BL[1087.833]C[DuskEagle [3d]: yeah
Bilapidate [1k]: W:Q7, B:R7, W:T10, B:T9, W:T8, etc
]
;W[hf]WL[273.437]C[tictac [6k]: i suck at yose
tictac [6k]: well not only qt yose
Sevis [7k]: Eh, so do I.
DuskEagle [3d]: i wonder if black knows how to capture the E18-F18 stones
Bilapidate [1k]: I don't
]
;B[gi]BL[982.478]C[DuskEagle [3d]: b19 b18 g19 c19 d18 c18 e19
]
;W[gj]WL[262.37]
;B[ii]BL[980.232]
;W[hi]WL[253.629]
;B[ij]BL[976.181]
;W[ik]WL[246.721]
;B[nf]BL[972.594]
;W[ne]WL[244.617]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Ahhh...thx
]
;B[go]BL[954.278]
;W[fo]WL[239.953]C[DuskEagle [3d]: it's a cool trick

Bilapidate [1k]: Still not quite enough to save B though...
]
;B[lp]BL[940.454]C[DuskEagle [3d]: no
]
;W[kp]WL[236.253]
;B[ip]BL[934.968]
;W[ep]WL[227.765]
;B[dn]BL[930.827]C[Sevis [7k]: I also suck at counting. :
tictac [6k]: so do i
tictac [6k]: so i never resign hoping i just miscounted by 30 .. sometime i did qnd i lose by 60 ^^
Sevis [7k]: Hehe.
Sevis [7k]: I'm great at the talk-to-the-opponent-until-he-runs-out-of-time tesuji, though.

]
;W[ae]WL[147.804]
;B[af]BL[927.104]
;W[ad]WL[146.437]
;B[ha]BL[918.927]
;W[ja]WL[137.231]
;B[qa]BL[916.515]
;W[pb]WL[133.742]
;B[sj]BL[911.183]C[tictac [6k]: oops yeqh
]
;W[qh]WL[122.115]
;B[qf]BL[906.68]C[tictac [6k]: i thoutght it was a lot of time so i didnt pqy qttention
]
;W[lg]WL[84.113]C[Bilapidate [1k]: W: about 70 pts ( inc komi )
DuskEagle [3d]: Thanks for running this btw Joaz
Bilapidate [1k]: Sure. NP
]
;B[jg]BL[882.728]
;W[jf]WL[71.868]
;B[mg]BL[865.868]
;W[mi]WL[56.463]C[Bilapidate [1k]: B: at best 60 pts
]
;B[lh]BL[858.03]
;W[mj]WL[45.041]
;B[kg]BL[854.318]
;W[lf]WL[38.27]
;B[ig]BL[851.815]
;W[hh]WL[33.516]
;B[fg]BL[849.971]
;W[oh]WL[26.847]
;B[nh]BL[843.138]
;W[pm]WL[17.722]
;B[si]BL[834.66]
;W[rh]WL[11.943]
;B[qm]BL[832.661]
;W[lq]WL[40]OW[5]
;B[ga]BL[799.493]
;W[db]WL[40]OW[4]C[DuskEagle [3d]: uh oh
Bilapidate [1k]: Ko?
DuskEagle [3d]: b19 was shape move
DuskEagle [3d]: seki i think
Sevis [7k]: White wins by twenty points, imho.

tictac [6k]: no idea imho
]
;B[ek]BL[732.86]C[tictac [6k]: but sounds myhch closer
tictac [6k]: not sure i win
Sevis [7k]: Did you include the 7.5 komi?
tictac [6k]: ah no
]
;W[np]WL[40]OW[4]C[DuskEagle [3d]: B b18 W a18 black must b19 due to e19 liberty...
]
;B[oo]BL[728.543]
;W[gl]WL[40]OW[4]C[Sevis [7k]: But, let's see ,there's still the dame-fight.
]
;B[ho]BL[716.621]C[DuskEagle [3d]: actually Wb19 is better than A18 isn't it
]
;W[ab]WL[40]OW[4]C[tictac [6k]: i just wonderd if there wasnt some kinf of seki
Bilapidate [1k]: Moot now.
DuskEagle [3d]:

Sevis [7k]: I think it could have been seki, actually.
]
;B[ia]BL[693.856]C[Sevis [7k]: Just realised I should try, but was too late.

]
;W[mq]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[ea]BL[688.762]
;W[jh]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[fh]BL[686.381]C[DuskEagle [3d]: oh man... I better remember to fill dame in my game

]
;W[]WL[40]OW[4]
;B[]BL[686.38]TW[aa][ba][ca][ma][na][oa][bb][cb][mb][nb][ac][mc][nc][md][nd][je][ke][le][me][hk][jl][ll][ml][nl][km][lm][mm][nm][kn][ln][ap][bp][cp][aq][dq][eq][pq][qq][ar][br][cr][lr][nr][or][pr][qr][as][bs][cs][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]TB[sa][sb][hc][rc][sc][ed][fd][rd][sd][ce][de][ee][qe][bf][df][ef][ag][bg][cg][dg][ah][bh][ch][ai][bi][ci][aj][bj][dj][ak][bk][ck][rk][sk][al][bl][cl][rl][sl][am][bm][cm][sm][rn][sn][hq][hr][ir][gs][hs][is]C[DuskEagle [3d]: good game guys
Sevis [7k]: Thanks, good game.
tictac [6k]: thnaks good game
tictac [6k]: i felt behinf most of the tiime qctuqlly
Sevis [7k]: You managed to reduce my top-right a lot.
Sevis [7k]: Want to review?
tictac [6k]: then when you said that you recounted hoping to hqve mqde q mistake i looked qand realized it was close
Bilapidate [1k]: B has 4 groups; W 2
tictac [6k]: sure !
Sevis [7k]: Erm, you go ahead. ^^
tictac [6k]: ok
])
(;B[fj]
;W[di]
(;B[fh]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Etoo tight
Bilapidate [1k]: *too
Bilapidate [1k]: G12?
])
(;B[gh]C[Bilapidate [1k]: W in trouble here, I think
tictac [6k]: does that mean that D 10 was wrong to begin with ?
Bilapidate [1k]: Maybe C12 first, just let him run
])
(;B[ch]
(;W[gh])
(;W[fh]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Not sure. But still better fior B than ponnuki
]))))
(;W[pm]C[Sevis [7k]: T5?
]
;B[so]C[Sevis [7k]: (or T4, actually)
]
(;W[sm]C[Sevis [7k]: T8?
]
;B[sl])
(;W[sp]C[Sevis [7k]: T11, I would say.
]
;B[sj]C[tictac [6k]: looks alive ,
tictac [6k]: ?
DuskEagle [3d]: yeah, i think it is
tictac [6k]: DE ?
Bilapidate [1k]: R7 safer
Sevis [7k]: S6, then R7.
])))
(;W[np]
;B[mn]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Unnncessary risk for W
]
;W[nm]C[Sevis [7k]: Ack.
]
(;B[po]C[tictac [6k]: you can play some nasty ko too
])
(;B[oo]
;W[mo]
;B[mp]
;W[lo]C[tictac [6k]: yes
])))
(;AW[of][kg][lk]C[Sevis [7k]: This is what it'd probably end up as, and I doubt black could get much compensation.
Sevis [7k]: Maybe something on the left, but black's left is still weak.
Sevis [7k]: And I'm awful with moyos.
]))
(;B[no]C[Bilapidate [1k]: O5 and S5
tictac [6k]: P5 here is weord shape
]
;W[mo]
;B[mn]
;W[nm]C[Bilapidate [1k]: N4 ok, W run, then O4
]
;B[mp]C[tictac [6k]: when ?
]
(;W[lo]C[Bilapidate [1k]: O4
]
(;B[op]C[Bilapidate [1k]: no
])
(;B[np]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Remebr S5
tictac [6k]: ok
]
;W[oo]
(;B[op]
;W[po]C[Bilapidate [1k]: B Q5
])
(;B[po]
;W[op]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Now S5
]
(;B[ro]C[DuskEagle [3d]: why not R4?
Bilapidate [1k]: eys space in sente
Bilapidate [1k]: ooh, yeah, bigger
tictac [6k]: a ok i was looking for something to get out
])
(;B[qp]
;W[qq]
;B[ro]C[tictac [6k]: ok
Bilapidate [1k]: Thisline also, B lives in sente
tictac [6k]: ok
]))))
(;W[np]
;B[lo]
;W[oo]C[tictac [6k]: ugly
Bilapidate [1k]: Q5
tictac [6k]: yes
])))
(;W[of]C[Bilapidate [1k]: yes
tictac [6k]: the ladder on P13 does work tough
]
;B[og]
(;W[ld]C[Bilapidate [1k]: L15
tictac [6k]: L 15 when ?
Bilapidate [1k]: After P13 cut
])
(;W[ke]C[tictac [6k]: ok
tictac [6k]: i agree better for W
tictac [6k]: here i was unhappy
Bilapidate [1k]: More room for W to run if needed, and messes with B influence from right
])))
(;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[pd]C[tictac [6k]: i looked qt thqt but i dont know why i didnt played it
DuskEagle [3d]: blackblack should P14 instantly if white doesn't IMO
Bilapidate [1k]: Fight in shadow of white strength
]))
(;B[oc]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Approaching W strength
]))
(;W[ro]
;B[rn]
;W[pm]
;B[qm]C[DuskEagle [3d]: maybe G6 instead of B3? I don't really know for sure
]
;W[sn]C[tictac [6k]: i see about S 5
tictac [6k]: should hqve tried it qt leqst i considered it
]))
(;B[po]
;W[qp]
;B[no]C[Bilapidate [1k]: Yes
Sevis [7k]: Ah, didn't see...
tictac [6k]: i see
tictac [6k]: much better shqpe for B
]))
(;B[nn]C[Bilapidate [1k]: S10 is barely 1.37 eys in gote
tictac [6k]: ok
DuskEagle [3d]: this breaks whte's center somewhat as well
DuskEagle [3d]: don't want to get sealed in
tictac [6k]: yes it would hqve annoyed me
]))
(;W[qj]C[Bilapidate [1k]: B needs eye space.
tictac [6k]: i hesitated
]))
(;B[nq]))
(;B[pj]C[Sevis [7k]: Q 10 is normal without Q13, but I've never seen Q13 before.
tictac [6k]: i hqve to fight in your framework
DuskEagle [3d]: Q10 is pretty normal, so is P16 I think
Bilapidate [1k]: Miai
tictac [6k]: maybe i misremenebred and its a gross mistake
]))