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Post #921 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:49 pm 
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I'm officially off the wagon.

After several humiliating losses in my completely undeserved gold rank, I changed races. I figured, if I'm going to have to relearn everything, and suck terribly for weeks and months of time again, I might as well have the excuse that I'm learning a new race.

So, I'm trying to learn terrans. I must be getting better, I made someone rage quit a few days ago, after turtling up and wiping his army out a couple times.

Here's a fun fact, I think protoss are the easiest race to macro.

A) All their research is at a few buildings. The cyber core takes care of all air weapons, the forge takes care of everything else. Special upgrades may require one extra building per tech tree.

Terrans require the engineering bay for random structural upgrades, and squishy weapons. The armoury takes care of everything else, but special abilities are all in tech labs, it makes keeping track of my tech feel like more work.

B) Protoss don't require a lot of build attention. You can 'warp' a dozen buildings in at once, if you want, and you have only used one unit to do it, and he can go right back to mining. I often end up with collections of 5-10 workers who have built new stuff for me, chillin all over the map, waiting for orders. I could shift click them all back to work after the build, but often I want 1-2 of them actually continuing to build things, and I just forget that everyone else should be working. The whole 'taking time to build things' portion of building management is a real drag too.

C) Protoss don't require constant attention to their nexus. Chrono boost is all your nexus does for you and you can use that steadily and reflexively through the game. Command Center's energy use needs to be monitored and considered constantly, using miners to support your mineral count, and saving energy for scans for battle purposes later in the game.

D) Protoss Balls are Awesome. Terran Balls are less so. Lumping every single unit together into a giant ball of death with very little micro is fine for the high shields, high armour units of the protoss. (assuming there's no annoying ghosts about.) Doing it with terrans is a good way to get things out of position and out of order. I'm still working on my micro of terran movement timings. Especially with siege push. Getting to where I can smoothly leaprog with half my seige engines while the other half take defensive posture is going to take a lot of work. Yet another reason I love Mr. Thor.


In short, I feel like there's a million things I have to be doing at once with the terrans. It may take a while for me to drag myself back up out of bronze again.

But hey, playing protoss feels easy now..

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Post #922 Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:17 pm 
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Well, after two months and 200 wins, I finally made it to silver league! :D

Need to start playing more Go again...

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In short, I feel like there's a million things I have to be doing at once with the terrans. It may take a while for me to drag myself back up out of bronze again.

But hey, playing protoss feels easy now..

-Funny, I've recently thought about switching to Protoss, but I think I'll stick with Terran until I improve a bit more.

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Post #923 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:20 am 
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Cool cool. I just hit gold with my zerg. :cool: It's a proud moment... *sniff*

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Post #924 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:17 am 
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More Starcraft / Go crossover:
http://redditpickedmyhobby.wordpress.co ... last-week/

I posted in the comments, maybe we will get some more Go players from the Starcraft world. :salute:

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Post #925 Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:12 am 
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I don't know if Protoss is necessarily easier, but something that I found interesting was that, despite hardly playing SC2 after I came back from China, I still managed to do pretty well and take games off mid-Masters in an SC2 LAN tournament that was held in my university a few days ago. My mechanics are quite rusty, but I still remembered my BOs like yesterday because I played them so many times on ladder. Also, since these BOs are old, not too many people were familiar with the timings and I managed to catch them off guard quite a lot. I think, if you want to learn a race where it's emphasized on BOs and timings, Protoss is the way to go.

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Post #926 Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:38 am 
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Araban wrote:
I don't know if Protoss is necessarily easier, but something that I found interesting was that, despite hardly playing SC2 after I came back from China, I still managed to do pretty well and take games off mid-Masters in an SC2 LAN tournament that was held in my university a few days ago. My mechanics are quite rusty, but I still remembered my BOs like yesterday because I played them so many times on ladder. Also, since these BOs are old, not too many people were familiar with the timings and I managed to catch them off guard quite a lot. I think, if you want to learn a race where it's emphasized on BOs and timings, Protoss is the way to go.


Great job! Is the tournament still going? The link doesn't show the last two rounds.

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Post #927 Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:05 pm 
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Araban wrote:
I don't know if Protoss is necessarily easier, but something that I found interesting was that, despite hardly playing SC2 after I came back from China, I still managed to do pretty well and take games off mid-Masters in an SC2 LAN tournament that was held in my university a few days ago. My mechanics are quite rusty, but I still remembered my BOs like yesterday because I played them so many times on ladder. Also, since these BOs are old, not too many people were familiar with the timings and I managed to catch them off guard quite a lot. I think, if you want to learn a race where it's emphasized on BOs and timings, Protoss is the way to go.


Great job! Is the tournament still going? The link doesn't show the last two rounds.
Nah, it finished. I think they just got lazy with the bracket updating at that point cause everyone knew what was going on. I ended up winning against Totes (PvZ; 5-gate 2-base timing), then lost to Acayex (PvT; 2-base 6 gate + collo bust), so I ended up in 3rd place (highest placed non-Terran player :D). Chaos won the whole thing.

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Post #928 Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:46 am 
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hello everybody, i have been playing starcraft for some months now, and i was wondering if there is any chat room for us Go players in there, or maybe a chat of the 19x19forum players hehe, so we can chat there and gather around and play matches and etc, with fellow Go players which have similar attitudes and respectful manners, :D. i am in the northamerican server by the way. currently i am in gold league, but maybe i will go to platin, not shure. Looking forward to play with all of you, :D

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Post #929 Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:43 pm 
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fengitreon wrote:
hello everybody, i have been playing starcraft for some months now, and i was wondering if there is any chat room for us Go players in there, or maybe a chat of the 19x19forum players hehe, so we can chat there and gather around and play matches and etc, with fellow Go players which have similar attitudes and respectful manners, :D. i am in the northamerican server by the way. currently i am in gold league, but maybe i will go to platin, not shure. Looking forward to play with all of you, :D


Join us in the teamliquid room on KGS --> Rooms -> Social -> teamliquid

There is also an L19 room on US BNET2, it's not very active though.

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Post #930 Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:29 am 
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