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 Post subject: Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo
Post #201 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:42 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . 3 . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #202 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:12 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Can't find a way for him to cut off my middle stones, so grabbing these points

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Post #203 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:25 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #204 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:31 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . 6 X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #205 Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:41 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O 7 . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #206 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:48 am 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X 8 X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This move helps my middle group, since there's now a shortage of liberties against those 5 white stones if he tries to cut me off. On the downside, I think he can capture my monkey jump stone in sente because my group is weak.

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Post #207 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:16 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm81 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w4:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O 9 O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X X X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm91 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w4:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . 2 a 3 1 b . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 4 X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X B X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X X X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . 5 O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If Black 92 at "a", I will connect at "b" and force the capture anyway before turning to 95 in the diagram.

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Post #208 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:50 pm 
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So be it :tmbup:
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[go]$$Wcm91 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X X X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . O O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . 6 . X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X . . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #209 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:56 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm91 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X X X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . O O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X 7 X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . X 8 X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X 9 . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If acceptable...

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Post #210 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:12 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm91 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X X X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . O O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X O X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . X X X . O O O . . |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X O . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . 0 . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think I'm behind by 3-5 points, but it feels too close to resign

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Post #211 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:42 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O O O O . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X . . X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X X O O X . . X X O . X . X . . |
$$ | O X X O O O X . O . . O X X . X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . O . X O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . 1 X . . O . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . O . . O X 2 X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X X X O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . O O . . X O . O |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X O X . X . . O X |
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . X X X . O O O . 3 |
$$ | X O O X . X . X . O . X O O O X O . X |
$$ | O . O X . . . . X O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . X X O O . O O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X X O . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #212 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:24 pm 
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ありません!

Thank you very much for the game.

It looks like I'm down by about 5 points, and I don't see any way around it.

This game was a lot of fun. I felt like I got off to a reasonably good start (as is typical in handicap games) but after the two disastrous sequences on the left side and on top the game slipped out of my reach. I'm looking forward to reading all the comments.

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Post #213 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:54 pm 
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Thanks for the game! It was interesting and challenging. Despite the left side, I felt that I had to resort to the ko in the upper left to have a chance. I think that Black needed to fight harder there or have a bigger follow up in hand. More on that later...

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 Post subject: Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo
Post #214 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:57 pm 
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For many many moves I though there was no way white would pull this one off. Next time I'll have to have more faith! :salute:

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Post #215 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:47 pm 
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Read through the hiddens, and your comments were very illuminating :tmbup:

It's nice to know that although I made several big mistakes, I got some nice moves in as well. :salute:

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