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 Post subject: Re: 154. illuck vs. Celebrir
Post #101 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:59 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 4 X . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I read correctly he has two possibilities if he doesn't want to give me a ponnuki:
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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Dia. 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 1 3 9 X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X 2 . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . 7 5 X O 8 X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . 6 4 . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 0 X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I didn't reduce much here but I get something in exchange

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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Dia. 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 4 2 . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . 7 6 . O O X 3 . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . 8 1 X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . 5 . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This reduction seems okay.

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Post #102 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:17 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 5 . . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #103 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X 6 . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here we go, following my previous thoughts.

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Post #104 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X 7 . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I missed the J14 cut here :p My response is forced, though. Will have to read more carefully (and try to count) to see if I should try to live or just give the stones up.

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Post #105 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:18 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X . X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 8 . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Still going on like planed.

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Post #106 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:55 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X 9 X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Mmm, I want to extend, but the cut here is too annoying to keep XD

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Post #107 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:39 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . 0 . O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, that was not what I expected. I guess he wanted to prevent this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Dia.1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X 6 . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . 2 4 5 . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X 3 X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . 1 X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . 7 , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I admit I didn't thought much about it because I didn't want to sacrifiece my reducing stones. Remembering that I already made another variation were I would catch this stone worse than it might be (I'm still not sure whether this would have been good for me) I'm asking myself whether I avoid such variations to much...
Well, returning to the actual board, I think the only move is to catch his stones. Seems like a good shape and I might get something more out of this.

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Post #108 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:22 am 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #109 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:20 am 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Damn it, this seems to be his sente. I fear the life of my corner group would be on the line if I tennuki here and I see nothing big enough to justify that.

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Post #110 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:49 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I hope my counting is not way off, but I think I can afford to play here.

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Post #111 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:57 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . 4 O . O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is big and sente for me, so there is not really much to say about it.

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Post #112 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:26 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X 5 O O . O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't see any other local moves here. Drawing back at D12 is not even worth considering since the E13 cut is not an issue currently.


Edit to fix diagram.


Last edited by illluck on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #113 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Somehow your diagram is not displayed, ot is that only for me ?

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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O 6 X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll look into the situation at the left and whether I can use the cut later. First I'll try to take another sente.

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Post #114 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:32 pm 
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Mmm, that is strange, hopefully it works this time.

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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O 6 X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Edit: Got it, I'm on a school computer because I'm supposed to be cramming for midterm XD It handles copy a bit strangely.

I should have no issues with selling the aji here because the cut was not playable anyways.

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Post #115 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Strange... Normally copy is copy, isn't it ? oO

Just to be sure, there is not move from you in the last diagram, right ?^^°

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Post #116 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:10 pm 
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Opps... Yeah, I was so happy that I got the diagram to work (basically, the copy had an automatic format that put extra spaces in front) that I forgot that the re-copy would remove my actual move XD

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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . 7 . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #117 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:42 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X 8 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think this helps him much because I have a peep myself:
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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Dia. 1a
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , 0 . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X 8 9 . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . 5 4 7 O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X 6 X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O 2 3 . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 illluck vs. Celebrir - Dia.1b
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , O . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X O X 1 2 X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X O X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O O X 3 O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X 5 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . 6 . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Seems like he can't resist if he wants to protect this cut with the peep.

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Post #118 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X . 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #119 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O . . 0 O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Just protecting seems to easy here.

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Post #120 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm91 illluck vs. Celebrir - Prisoners: 0-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O O . O . X . O . X . . X . . |
$$ | O . O X X . . . X , . . O O X , . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O . X . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X X X X . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X O O X O 1 . O O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . O O X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . . , . O . . . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X . , X . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . X . X X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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