Life In 19x19

I checked and these ING Grants sums are stated directly on the EGF website:

2000-2001: $80000 + equipment

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Can you tell me where I can find the discussion about EGCC? That was opened around 1992 and seems to me it's hard to see any results after 19 years of Go promotion by full time staff ...

True, but this would be a high risk undertaking. You're putting 90% of the budget for the whole year on the line. And the merits might be plausible but uncertain.

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Sorry to insist, but I don't se what's uncertain about it.
As I already said somehere, the Swedish association collects ...

If, as I definitely claim, the small countries get more back from their EGF membership
than they pay for, there is no need to discuss if they can afford it, any claim
that they can't is simply wrong.
That does not seem entirely logic to me. As stated in this thread, paying the membership fee is ...

For comparisons, the national fee per year in germany is 78 Euro (39 for students, 15 for children). (Members get reduced entrance fees for tournaments, a roughly monthly go magazine and membership is a must for participating in tournaments over titles (national/regional/...).

What quite a few ...

The EGF has spent a lot of money in the past, the ING money for example, about 100.000 US$ worth per year. What is the outcome? In my opinion had these expenses been successful there should be many more go players in Europe.

wow, , US$ per year!

Yes, more or less, you can check ING grants on ...

I recognise the benefits the EGF has given in the past, and I really find the idea of leaving the EGF distasteful; however, to convince people not to vote to leave, you need reasons.
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I don`t understand the point about EGF congress giving financial benefit to member nations. Given 1 or 2 ...

Is there some sort of benefit that the EGF disburses on a per country basis, such that arithmetically similar contributions from each country would be proportionate to benefits received?

The answer is yes, there are and have all the time been benefits that come per country. The problem in this ...

On the issue of woting control in EGF I can only refer what I have heard from our representatives (and others) at the EGF meetings. I myself have sadly never found the time or money to attend. What I heard was that large countries like Russia have gained power of attorney from smaller countries ...

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But as from a small country (Denmark) I can say that we now pay 4 times as much per member as the larger countries do. The membership fee for EGF per member is 1€ (0.5€ for children but we have none) and the minimum fee per country is 200. You can get it reduced to 50€ if you are a ...

Secondly Javaness, you think that the resources of the EGF are not well spent?
I think that such a discussion might be more constructive than opposing increased membership fees in times when external sponsoring drops.

But I've been to very many EGF AGM:s and oddly I nearly don't recall any ...

Javaness, you say that the invitations to WAGC and KPMC have absolutely
nothing to do with EGF membership. This may be true in a formal sense,
but in fact EGF membership has been the way into IGF membership and participation
in WAGC and similar, and this has been the major incentive for new/small ...

At the moment, smaller member nations in the EGF can be said to get a raw deal. Is it time to re-organise the EGF to better meet everyone's needs?

Hi Javaness,
I also think that you need to explain in what sense you think that the smaller members get a "raw deal". I represent one of the smaller ...

The following was sent to the EGF by the British Go Association today:

The English is pretty difficult to understand, so we think that a rewrite by a native English speaker is advisable.

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1) drop the Relegation system

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2) drop the rule that the European Open Champion must be a non ...

A nice location this "grottan"- visited today.

Not many players, though, but their niceness compensated that.

You could try to arrange an "enkelbiljett" för tourists visiting Stockholm; although in the end I did not need to register as a new member.

... and tomorrow heading back home.

The ...

Since a couple of weeks, Ju-Yeon Ko 8p is teaching at the Stockholm go club. In this period she comments a new pro game every thursday starting at 18.00, every sunday starting at 13.00. Following the game commentary she is available for play and individual comments. She is also available for private ...