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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #161 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:26 am 
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Sente is nice, yes, but k9 for L6 is such a bad exchange :sad:
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #162 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O C W . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think i sucked enough juice out of this and it is time for me to tenuki.
that is very very thick and will effect rest of the board to my favor.
i assumpe he will try to save lower left corner with this sente.... how???

this looks bad for black...
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . O C W . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . 3 4 . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


if he try this then i will kill everything.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . O C W . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . 4 . . 3 . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


he has to defend corner 'a'
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . 4 2 . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O 1 . . . . O C W . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i think below move will break his lead...
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 1 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X 1 . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O C W . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #163 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:50 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . B . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It is, of coures, time - maybe past time? - to do something about the lower left corner / left side. My first inclination is to note that I have a high stone at D4 and then move toward the center with the D6 attachment. But that does not work so well: he hanes on the outside and I get pushed toward his newly acquired center ponuki. :cry:

So I'm going to make him commit with his C6 stone first. If he lets me have B6, I live easily and maybe I get a decent corner. If he takes B6, he gets heavy, and he doesn't have enough room for a good extension up to C10.

I still keep looking for ways to use H4.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #164 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

not what i expected but pretty good move by black..
below is what i expect. not much different from what i draw before.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X 4 . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . 1 W 2 . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #165 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:18 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . B O . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A moment's reading assures me that I cannot let him have the 3-3 point, so I must take it myself.

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Offline Phoenix
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #166 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:53 pm 
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I'm confused by MW's last move. Why spend so much time and planning and stones to strengthen and stabilize his bottom group, somehow get a ponnuki, if he's going to attach with it?

And what if Joaz disregards the corner and plays D5 or something similar next? A good batch of MW's moves will essentially go to waste.

Am I getting this wrong? :scratch:
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #167 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O W . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #168 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:48 pm 
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MW just played a contact move, which he had to protect in gote. :scratch: He has no respect for my stone at C11. :-?

I must change that. :rambo:

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #169 Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:32 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O B . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll give MW another chance to make his stone heavy. :lol:
Otherwise, I may take the entire left side.

I think that W attaching at the 3-4 was a mistake. Generally, contact moves are defender's moves: they provoke rapid strengthening of both sides, which is generally better for the defender because the defender needs strengthening more.

Not only does it encourage my group to become stronger, but it allows me to start shoving his lone C6 stone against my relatively strong group to the north. There are variations in which my lower left group may become strong enough that it can turn back on his D3/E3 stones and attack them.

In summary, the general theme of my play is to push north and/or east, and maybe kill something. If I can't kill something, I'll be happy to take center territory while chasing it.

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #170 Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:19 pm 
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It is difficult to find a good continuation for white. Below are some sample continuations:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . 6 . . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X 1 3 4 . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . 2 X 5 O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . 8 . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X 5 . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X 1 3 4 . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . 2 X 6 O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . 7 . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . 6 O X 2 . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X 3 . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . 4 X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . 8 . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . 5 O X 2 . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X 3 . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . 9 4 X 6 O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . 0 X O O . 7 . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i have no idea why he tendu ki

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Post #172 Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:13 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X B . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Locally it is the only move.

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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O W . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
if he keep making mistake...he will lose on points

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Post #175 Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:28 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . B O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Got work to do today, so no diagrams right now...but if I have read correctly, this gives me a slight advantage over the F7 hane. I'll post that later.

Regardless, it is going to get bloody soon. :D

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Post #176 Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:35 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

he is playing with fire and might get burn.
i selected a variation that is more complicated...
i think this will break his back first and i will see howmuch damage he will do on me..

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Post #177 Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:52 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . B X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Letting him have B3 makes life too easy for him, and allows him a free hand for other nefarious and malicious activities. I want him to worry about what happens if I connect at G4.
Below is an exemplary pattern showing what can happen:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O C . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . X X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O X X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . B X O O O . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 O O . . 4 3 . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he has to keep looking for life down there, eventually I will get to play the cut at F7. Then it gets fun. :twisted:

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$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . W . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . . . . X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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