I've downloaded both of these, but can't seem to figure out how to install the GnuGo engine into Fuego (If indeed that is how it works). The Fuego website seems to think anyone who goes there is a command line guru.

Can anyone give me simple step by step instructions on how to install/combine these on a Vista 32 bit machine?

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There's actually a difference between Fuego, the go-playing engine, and GoGui, the user interface and board and such. Do you have GoGui working? Can you play a game against Fuego?

No.

I get the pretty graphics but I can't play against the program. I can click on a point and it will drop in the appropriate color stone, but that's as far as it goes.

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Just click on "Program" -> "New Program" and enter at command line
That should be all.

I'm not on Windows, but I can try to help.

In GoGui in the program menu there's a "new program..." option. For the command you may have to give it the full path to your program, something like "C:\Programs\fuego.exe". I don't know where the installer puts the executable, sorry. GnuGo will be similar, put the path to the exe file. Then you can choose which one you want to play against with the "attach" option in the program menu.

He means he doesn't know where the installer puts it by default. Almost always when installing a program you get a chance to specify where you want it put. Most people don't bother, simply accept the default location. Don't even realize they might have had a choice about it.

Thanks for the help, guys, but at this point neither program will even run on my laptop at all. I just keep getting error messages. I've even tried uninstalling and reinstalling - multiple times - without result.

It's probably some quirk with this specific Vista machine, but at this point I'm gonna just put this attempt at using GnuGo/Fuego down as a lost cause and purchase a self-contained commercial Go program that I know my system can actually run. That means either SmartGo or MFG12 since MasterGo also would not install and neither Go++ nor Moyo provide trial versions to try.

Thanks again.

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Wait wait! It's really not that difficult!

Gnugo and Fuego are so-called "engines." To play against an engine, you just need a program that provides the interface (board and stones).

I would suggest Drago (http://www.godrago.net/ ), which is an excellent free program that does many of the things that expensive programs do, and will let you play against an engine as well.

Here's how to do it:

Download the gnugo engine, and take note of where you put it. Then download and install Drago. When you run it, go to the menu "play," and click the bottom entry "engine settings". A window will open, and click "add". Choose gnugo, and select "already installed". (Later, when you want to try out other engines, you can choose "open browser, download and install") Then click the three dots next to "path" and point to where you have gnugo-3.8.exe. Select it, click OK, and you're all set up.

To play against the engine, go to the menu "play," choose the top item "new engine game," set your parameters and you're good to go!

If run into any difficulties, ask again!

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I know this is going to make me look like a complete idiot, but exactly which file(s) from the GnuGo directory should I download? The list looks like this:

[ ] gnugo-1.2.tar.gz 16-Nov-1995 03:00 27K
[ ] gnugo-2.6.tar.gz 14-Feb-2000 02:20 603K
[ ] gnugo-3.2.tar.gz 25-Apr-2002 11:30 1.9M
[ ] gnugo-3.4.tar.gz 31-Jul-2003 11:07 2.2M
[ ] gnugo-3.6.tar.gz 17-Nov-2004 19:10 2.6M
[ ] gnugo-3.6.tar.gz.sig 17-Nov-2004 19:11 65
[ ] gnugo-3.8.tar.gz 19-Feb-2009 10:12 3.1M
[ ] gnugo-3.8.tar.gz.sig 19-Feb-2009 10:13 65

I'm assuming it's one of the ones with the most frecent date. I see two with a February 2009 date. If I understand you correctly, I should DL one of these, park it in a folder somewhere on my C: drive (maybe one cleverly labeled "GnuGo") and then when I install Drago direct the Drago installer to look to that file?

What is the difference/significance between tar.gz.sig and tar.gz?


EDIT: It's a moot point. DraGo will not install either. I just get "Access Denied" even on my Administrator account.

Thanks again.

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Those .tar.gz files are for Linux. You need to download a windows version - one that ends in .exe You can find them here: http://gnugo.baduk.org/

I don't know why you can't install drago, but that is unusual, and I think you should figure out why you are getting an access denied message before you do anything else.

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Patience, grasshopper.

This laptop has always been quirky with permissions. I've tried repeatedly to correct it but nothing has changed it.

Perhaps DraGo or some other GUI will work properly on my desktop but that system needs a new motherboard and I just haven't had any great incentive to repair it.

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You might try right clicking the installer and selecting "run as administrator."

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Another place I recall fixing an access denied problem is on the "security" tab that should be visible when you right click the installer and select "properties." If it isn't visible, here are steps to make it reappear:

Launch Windows Explorer or My Computer.
Click on the Tools at the menu bar, then click on Folder Options.
Click on View tab.
In the Advanced Settings section at the bottom of the list, uncheck and unselect (clear the tick) on the “Use simple file sharing (Recommended)” check box.
Click OK.

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Patience, grasshopper.

I actually tried switching to my Administrator account to run it and it still wouldn't work.



SUCCESS! I shut down my firewall program and then reset the permissions as you suggested and it worked! I just tried a quick trial 9x9 game.

If I understand correctly additional engines such as Fuego could also be installed?

Thanks again for all your help. L19 is a great community.

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Yep. You can find a few here: http://gnugo.baduk.org/ and drago points to others as well. When you start the game, you can choose which engine to play against.

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I have now successfully installed Fuego as well. Things are definitely looking up on this front.

One of the features of both MFG12 and SmartGo I was most enjoying was the thousands of built-in Go problems. Does Drago have a similar feature; and if so how do I access it? The "Solve" on the menu bar is grayed out. Is it possible to add problems from a third party source?

I did manage to install Kogo's Joseki Dictionary. Now if I could just figure out how I did it...?

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SmartGo uses problems from goproblems.com. You can download them from there and solve with an app like gogrinder or drago.

I'm not sure if Drago comes with problems or not. You can try file>open and look in the Drago folder. If there's something called easy.sgf, open it and then try "solve" on the menu bar. And yes, you can install problem collections from other sources.

One resource is here: http://goproblems.sourceforge.net/

I don't know where to find other easy ones to download. Oren suggested above getting them from goproblems.com, but I think you have to be a paying member to be able to download...

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Patience, grasshopper.

I don't have any real problem paying for Go problems. After all, I was willing to pay $50 for a good Go program and I figure including those in a commercial Go app is part of the retail price.

In the meantime I have a couple thousand problems to work through before I need to invest in a problem collection.

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I bought this set for problems.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?GoElementaryTra ... velTesting