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Post #1 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:37 am 
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Toshiro Kageyama in his book "Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go" presents us with some life-and-death problems. Here is one of them with mine and Kageyama's solutions. Does mine work?

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Post #2 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:47 am 
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White has a stronger move for 4, so your attempt fails.

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Post #3 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:55 am 
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Li Kao wrote:
White has a stronger move for 4, so your attempt fails.


Do you by any chance mean S19?

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Post #4 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:01 am 
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S19 Q18 P18

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Post #5 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:34 am 
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Here's how it plays out in full. B can slice off a few stones but W lives.

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Post #6 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:40 am 
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Txewì, you're wrong.

In your second sequence w6 lives, but loses points compared to p8.
And your claim that w is alive after the third sequence is plain wrong.

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I think Suprun's b1 ends in ko.


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Post #7 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:46 am 
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@Txewì: In you first sequence :b5: is gote (white can live without answering). Locally White connects with :w6: to save 3 stones but it is not needed.

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Post #8 Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:49 pm 
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Txewì, you're wrong.

don't be so hard on Txewì... the whole point is that SuprunP's "solution" doesn't work (for various reasons).

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