The game that ended the streak:
What I'm wondering is if the fuseki and middlegame are closer to what you were advising me to do or am I still being too passive with white?
A beginner's journal of little interest
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A close one, with a nice complicated fight in the top right and a fair few blunders by me. Still happy enough with it. I missed a huge tesuji on the bottom in the yose which was pointed out to me after the game. I also messed up in the centre in the yose.
Still, I hope I'm getting closer to where I should be with a high handicap. Though I bottled it on move 142.
Still, I hope I'm getting closer to where I should be with a high handicap. Though I bottled it on move 142.
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Well done!
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Boidhre wrote:A close one, with a nice complicated fight in the top right and a fair few blunders by me. Still happy enough with it. I missed a huge tesuji on the bottom in the yose which was pointed out to me after the game.
Are you talking about move 240?
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EdLee wrote:Bill, thanks, but very tricky.
Very nice, Ed, thanks.
I think that after the descent and the jump to the first line, that White must descend again.
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Bill Spight wrote:Boidhre wrote:A close one, with a nice complicated fight in the top right and a fair few blunders by me. Still happy enough with it. I missed a huge tesuji on the bottom in the yose which was pointed out to me after the game.
Are you talking about move 240?
Yes, it removed all the aji from the position. Thank you for the review.
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Myself and Daal. Tough, tough game. I think I'm more 12k than 11k at the moment on Kaya.
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
So I'm definitely out of the depression/mixed episode and back playing go obviously. I'm having a lot of fun, rediscovering my love of problems and no longer suffering from crippling anxiety about people which was stopping me going to the go club and from playing online.
Current ideas are: Keep doing problems from 1001 L&D and Get Strong at Tesuji. Both are suitable for my level I think. I'm reading Attack and Defence but most of it goes over my head to be honest, or at least it feels that way. Still, it's interesting and encouraging me to experiment aggressively in my games (with all the problems that brings at the start!).
I'm very much still a DDK I think. This isn't bothering me though, I'm happy so long as I feel I'm improving and/or having fun playing and I feel both are true at the moment. One thing I'm very much enjoying is chatting to and playing L19 people on Kaya, it's been very nice to play ye!
Current ideas are: Keep doing problems from 1001 L&D and Get Strong at Tesuji. Both are suitable for my level I think. I'm reading Attack and Defence but most of it goes over my head to be honest, or at least it feels that way. Still, it's interesting and encouraging me to experiment aggressively in my games (with all the problems that brings at the start!).
I'm very much still a DDK I think. This isn't bothering me though, I'm happy so long as I feel I'm improving and/or having fun playing and I feel both are true at the moment. One thing I'm very much enjoying is chatting to and playing L19 people on Kaya, it's been very nice to play ye!
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Some comments.
The Adkins Principle:
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
Boidhre wrote:So I'm definitely out of the depression/mixed episode and back playing go obviously. I'm having a lot of fun, rediscovering my love of problems and no longer suffering from crippling anxiety about people which was stopping me going to the go club and from playing online.
¡Bueno!
I'm very much still a DDK I think.
Get in touch with your inner 5 kyu.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: A beginner's journal of little interest
A few more comments on the 4-stone game which Bill just reviewed exhaustively --
There is often a choice between an hanging connection and a solid connection. The proper choice depends on the situation. You seem to play the solid connection nearly exclusively. This is sometimes necessary (move 28), but often the hanging connection can be better (moves 18, 102, 110).
Bill criticized move 34 (M3) already and gave some better alternatives. Let me just give more of the reasoning. Look at the board after move 33. Which side is potentially larger, the right or the bottom? Clearly the right side is much larger and more open.
After extending somewhere around Q10, suppose W plays elsewhere. A good continuation for B would then be O4 or O5. Exchanging O5 (B stone) for M4 (W stone) would be far better for B than exchanging M3 (B stone) for O5 (W stone).
Was the M3 invasion perhaps a case of optimistic reading? If W responds by taking the 3-3 point, the sequence M3-R3-P3-P2-O4 would be ideal for B. Unfortunately W did not cooperate. The exchange M3-O5 instead is very good for W. I would even call M3 the losing move. Looking at the game, this is where I first felt W how had winning chances.
The actual losing sequence was moves 44-46-48, where you suffered a huge loss. It seems like fear of being cut lead to this problem. Ed and Bill have given better sequences here. The main point is that B must not back off from the fight. After blocking at move 40, B is at least as strong here as W, so B should keep playing strongly.
Finally, even after losing those three stones, there was a lot of aji left in the position. When you suffer a loss like this, you should look for ways to salvage some compensation. Anytime after move 52, the tesuji O4 looks very interesting, leading to a nice squeeze. However, it does not quite work, does it? Still, exchanging P5 for N3 seems like too little. Is there really nothing better? How about jumping in at P2? Try reading out some sequences. It looks like W might have to give up the R3 stone and the corner, which would be quite satisfying for B.
There is often a choice between an hanging connection and a solid connection. The proper choice depends on the situation. You seem to play the solid connection nearly exclusively. This is sometimes necessary (move 28), but often the hanging connection can be better (moves 18, 102, 110).
Bill criticized move 34 (M3) already and gave some better alternatives. Let me just give more of the reasoning. Look at the board after move 33. Which side is potentially larger, the right or the bottom? Clearly the right side is much larger and more open.
- On the bottom, White has low stones at J3 and O3, separated by only 4 lines. If W manages to make that space into territory, it amounts to less than 20 points. Invading here is small for B.
- On the right side, B has a large wall on top, separated from the bottom corner by 8 lines. That wall is crying out for an extension, to map out a huge territory. If W manages to make a comfortable base here, the B wall will lose its effectiveness.
After extending somewhere around Q10, suppose W plays elsewhere. A good continuation for B would then be O4 or O5. Exchanging O5 (B stone) for M4 (W stone) would be far better for B than exchanging M3 (B stone) for O5 (W stone).
Was the M3 invasion perhaps a case of optimistic reading? If W responds by taking the 3-3 point, the sequence M3-R3-P3-P2-O4 would be ideal for B. Unfortunately W did not cooperate. The exchange M3-O5 instead is very good for W. I would even call M3 the losing move. Looking at the game, this is where I first felt W how had winning chances.
The actual losing sequence was moves 44-46-48, where you suffered a huge loss. It seems like fear of being cut lead to this problem. Ed and Bill have given better sequences here. The main point is that B must not back off from the fight. After blocking at move 40, B is at least as strong here as W, so B should keep playing strongly.
Finally, even after losing those three stones, there was a lot of aji left in the position. When you suffer a loss like this, you should look for ways to salvage some compensation. Anytime after move 52, the tesuji O4 looks very interesting, leading to a nice squeeze. However, it does not quite work, does it? Still, exchanging P5 for N3 seems like too little. Is there really nothing better? How about jumping in at P2? Try reading out some sequences. It looks like W might have to give up the R3 stone and the corner, which would be quite satisfying for B.