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An interesting position

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I found this position fascinating to play around with. I think I've found a nice move. I hope it provides entertainment to others. :)


Better alternatives to :b53: here: ( :b53: has been played)

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Re: An interesting position

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black does not look strong enough to me to start an attack like that. I would just tobi
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Re: An interesting position

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I'm certainly not the strongest player here, but to me that looks very dangerous for black if white pushes through with M13. Black M13 or N11 look safer. M13 in particular is sente and after white pushes out with L13 black can save his cutting stone by playing F4 and split white into 2 groups. If white attempts to run his F3 group into the center with G4 G5 then black can aim for a peep at D9 followed by a split at C8. At this point 4 of white's groups are under attack.

Anyway, there are much stronger players than me around, but those lines look interesting to me anyway.
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Post by EdLee »

B messed up somewhere between :w38: (W invades) and :w50: (B bad shape).
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EdLee wrote:
B messed up somewhere between :w38: (W invades) and :w50: (B bad shape).
I didn't check too carefully the moves before, but seems like the M14 block from above at move 49 is a possible idea. In my opinion, though, up to move 52 it's not a very bad result for black.
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Re: An interesting position

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I read it out again and eh, actually I'm screwed and will be resigning soon. :oops:
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Re: An interesting position

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You are 100% not screwed. Courage!
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Re: An interesting position

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jts wrote:You are 100% not screwed. Courage!
Yeah resigning is an overstatement, now I've 3 days to figure out how to get something good from the position after white cuts which has happened and is what caused the reread.
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Re: An interesting position

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My alternative ideas:

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Re: An interesting position

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My instinct is 41 at P15.
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Re: An interesting position

Post by OtakuViking »

move 41= p17, n16, p14. What do you think?
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Re: An interesting position

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OtakuViking wrote:move 41= p17, n16, p14. What do you think?
I think it's a far better result than my cross-cut.
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Re: An interesting position

Post by Bill Spight »

Variations:

:b37: - O-14 Frontier of frameworks. Big.

:b39: - P-15

:b41: - O-15 :w42: - N-16 :b43: - P-17
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Re: An interesting position

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OK, I have added some variations. :)

Move 53 is quite difficult, I think. I finally came up with an idea. Sacrifice on the right side to build up strength in the center.

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