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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #81 Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:46 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm50 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #82 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:37 am 
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It looks like he can't connect. So i expect him to also cut me.
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[go]$$Wcm52 This is not severe since a and b are miai
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . 1 . . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
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[go]$$Wcm52 This looks more interesting
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O O 7 . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 4 2 O X 8 6 . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . O X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . 1 . . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
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[go]$$Wcm52 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . 1 . . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #83 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:54 am 
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Where is my opponent...
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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #84 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Sorry about my long absence. I have a lot on my plate, and forgot that I was involved in this game... should be able to play regularly again now.



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[go]$$Wcm52 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O 2 . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #85 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:23 am 
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I'm glad you returned :)

No easy connection
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[go]$$Wcm54 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . 1 . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #86 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:43 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm54 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 2 X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If my reading is correct, if he blocks, I can connect to my bottom group.
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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #87 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Ugh! What a horrible outcome for Black. White got a lot of influence in the center and got to invade Black's moyo at the bottom. In exchange, Black got a heavy group that is yet to live. This shows that Black should have considered playing lightly with the R9 stone rather than trying to save it at any cost. After :w42:, Black would have done better to either (1) limit himself with something like "a," reducing the value of capturing the R9 stone or (2) play somewhere else entirely (such as at the top left--"b" or "c," for instance).
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[go]$$Wcm42 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . b . . c . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . c . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . 1 , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now, Black's position is dire. He has to start looking for an opportunity to create a complicated fight where he could hope to kill something big. An unenviable task, to be sure, but one that could prove entertaining for the spectators. :)

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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #88 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:01 am 
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The only move.

Black can't connect with this move:
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[go]$$Bcm57 I eat four stones
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . 9 7 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X 2 O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . 3 O 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . 5 4 X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X O O X |
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[go]$$Bcm57 I eat them this way too
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . a O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X 2 O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X 7 3 O 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . 6 4 X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 5 9 X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

After the cut i have two weak groups. They can run though, and can probably gain enough libs to eat black's right J group first. To be forced to eat something... brr..

Err, wait.. Why do i have to cut? If he wants to connect, maybe allow him? Fixing all my weaknesses in the process...
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[go]$$Wcm56 Whoops...
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 5 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 1 X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X 4 O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . 3 O 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . 7 0 . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 9 8 . 6 . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm56 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 5 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 1 X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X 4 O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . O 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . 3 . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The question of the day: can black live?
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[go]$$Wcm56 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 1 X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #89 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:01 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm56 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . 2 O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline opex
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Post #90 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:12 pm 
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Changing order of moves. I'll be cut, he'll be cut too.
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[go]$$Wcm58 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #91 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:26 am 
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[go]$$Wcm58 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . 2 O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think W's last move may have been a mistake


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[go]$$Wcm58 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 4 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 7 6 O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . 2 O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think B can capture something after this figure.
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Post #92 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:50 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #93 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Just taking some sente before exploiting the cutting points I hope will free me from my bonds.



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[go]$$Wcm60 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #94 Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:25 pm 
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Forced
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[go]$$Wcm62 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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opex wrote:
Forced
Now what does W do?
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 1 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O W O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$W
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . 3 . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #96 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:36 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm62 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 2 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Wcm62 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 2 O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I should be able to break out and capture something.
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Post #97 Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:21 am 
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[go]$$Wcm64 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #98 Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:12 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm64 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #99 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:15 am 
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Ugh, how did i miss that move...

The only move that protects both groups... for a while
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[go]$$Wcm66 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . . O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #100 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:54 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm66 Captures: b - 1, w - 6.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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