#181 magicwand vs topazg (again!)

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:55 pm

@Intrepid:

The Intrepid wrote:What did you expect Magicwand to play?

The hane at T6:

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This, AFAICS, is ko. I'd missed it because I hadn't realised the difference getting :w56:

in sente made to the J group. You learn something every day :study:

@Uberdude et al

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:01 pm

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:46 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm151 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . . . . X O X O O . O . | $$ | . . O . . X O X . . X . O X X . O . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X . X . . X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O . . X . . O . X O O . | $$ | O O . O . . . . O . O . . . O X X X . | $$ | X . O . . . . X X O . . O X O . . . . | $$ | X . . . . X X X O . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . O X . X O X X X O . . . . | $$ | . X X O O O O X . O X X O O X , X X . | $$ | X . X O X O O X . X O . . . X . X O . | $$ | O X X X X X X X . X . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . O . . | $$ | O X X X . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 X 7 | $$ | . O O . . . . O . . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O . . X O . O | $$ | . X X . . O . O . X O . X . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . O X 8 . X 2 . 5 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . 6 . 4 . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:42 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm151 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . . . . X O X O O . O . | $$ | . . O . . X O X . . X . O X X . O . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X . X . . X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O . . X . . O . X O O . | $$ | O O . O . . . . O . O . . . O X X X . | $$ | X . O . . . . X X O . . O X O . . . . | $$ | X . . . . X X X O . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . O X . X O X X X O . . . . | $$ | . X X O O O O X . O X X O O X , X X . | $$ | X . X O X O O X . X O . . . X . X O . | $$ | O X X X X X X X . X . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . O 0 . | $$ | O X X X . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 X 7 | $$ | . O O . . . . O . . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O . . X O . O | $$ | . X X . . O . O . X O . X . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . O X 8 . X 2 . 5 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . 6 . 4 . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:05 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm161 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . . . . X O X O O . O . | $$ | . . O . . X O X . . X . O X X . O . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X . X . . X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O . . X . . O . X O O . | $$ | O O . O . . . . O . O . . . O X X X . | $$ | X . O . . . . X X O . . O X O . . . . | $$ | X . . . . X X X O . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . O X . X O X X X O . . . . | $$ | . X X O O O O X . O X X O O X , X X . | $$ | X . X O X O O X . X O . . . X . X O . | $$ | O X X X X X X X . X . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . O O . | $$ | O X X X . O X . . . . . . . . . X X X | $$ | . O O . . . . O . . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O 1 . X O . O | $$ | . X X . . O . O . X O . X . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . O X O . X O . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . O . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:10 am

P1 Atari

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:37 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:04 am

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:47 am

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:20 am

Here was me thinking I could play like this:

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Turns out I now lose the liberty race by 1, I hadn't realised it was so close - he's a tricky customer that magicwand ... le sigh.

At least I've spotted it, and I think I can now play as follows:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm177 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . . . . X O X O O . O . | $$ | . . O . . X O X . . X . O X X . O . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X . X . . X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O . . X . . O . X O O . | $$ | O O . O . . . . O . O . . . O X X X . | $$ | X . O . . . . X X O . . O X O . . . . | $$ | X . . . . X X X O . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . O X . X O X X X O . . . . | $$ | . X X O O O O X . O X X O O X , X X . | $$ | X . X O X O O X . X O . . . X . X O . | $$ | O X X X X X X X . X . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . O O O | $$ | O X X X . O X . . . . . . . . . X X X | $$ | . O O . . . . O . . . . O 2 . X X O X | $$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O X . X O O O | $$ | . X X . . O . O . X O O X X X X O 3 5 | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . O X O O X O 1 6 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 X X O O O O O | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm183 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . . . . X O X O O . O . | $$ | . . O . . X O X . . X . O X X . O . . | $$ | . . . O . . O X . X . . X X . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O O . . X . . O . X O O . | $$ | O O . O . . . . O . O . . . O X X X . | $$ | X . O . . . . X X O . . O X O . . . . | $$ | X . . . . X X X O . . . . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . O X . X O X X X O . . . . | $$ | . X X O O O O X . O X X O O X , X X . | $$ | X . X O X O O X . X O . . . X . X O . | $$ | O X X X X X X X . X . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . O O O | $$ | O X X X . O X . . . . . . . . 2 X X X | $$ | . O O . . . . O . . . . O O . X X O X | $$ | . . . O . O . . X O O . O X . X O O O | $$ | . X X . . O . O . X O O X X X X O 1 3 | $$ | . . . . X X O . . . . O X O O X O . O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O O O O | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Close, no?

jts · Post by **jts** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:46 am

Sverre · Post by **Sverre** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:47 am

jts wrote:
doesn't mw's group lose about four libs if topazg plays t3 first, then throws in at s4 before squeezing with t5? I suppose that ends up with a ko after w captures T2/t3, but it's a ko with oodles of approach moves, and that eats up all the libs. It seems a shame to Kill in gote.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:53 am

P5

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:35 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:56 am

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