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by cyclops Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:27 pm
5 years ago explo published a series of tsumego problems. I just found them again. If there is enough response I will republish them here. For historical reasons I start with nr 17. Please mention the nr of the problem(s) you are addressing in the subject title.
November 21st
B to move. 17A:Elementary problem
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B17B:Intermediate problem
$$B
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B17C:Advanced problem
$$B
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cyclops on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by Uberdude Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:47 pm
17B applied in "joseki" (I almost resigned in shame with that dango):
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by jts Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:08 pm
Is it possible you transposed elementary and intermediate?
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by illluck Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:08 pm
Uberdude wrote: 17B applied in "joseki" (I almost resigned in shame with that dango):
LOL
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by topazg Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:22 pm
My best guesses...
17A:Elementary problem
$$B
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B17B:Intermediate problem
$$B
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B17C:Advanced problem
$$B
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BSeems like a 4 step ko or something for White to win ...
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by Unusedname Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:25 pm
17C
I think...
$$B
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Beye vs no eye?
$$B
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$$B
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by logan Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:29 pm
I don't understand thread, but thank-you for posting tsumego problems : )
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by cyclops Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:57 pm
@jts : quite possible. The elementary one took me a few seconds; more than the intermediate. But I only copied them ( without permission ) from explo's previous threads in Godiscussions.
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by schawipp Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:55 am
For 17C I would try the following...
...or the other way round:
$$B
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Band then...
$$W
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WW seems pretty dead in both variations, please correct me if I'm mistaken.
Edit: I am obviously hallucinating in both lines, so never mind...
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by Sverre Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:47 am
cyclops wrote: I take care of the problems, everyone else ( except Sverre ) of the solutions.
What's that supposed to mean?
17A:Elementary problem
17B:Intermediate problem
17C:Advanced problem
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by Uberdude Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:55 am
Sverre, your solution to the elementary one is wrong.
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by Sverre Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:00 am
Uberdude wrote: Sverre, your solution to the elementary one is wrong.
Wrong as in dead or wrong as in inefficient?
Is this better?
$$B
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B$$B
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B
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by Uberdude Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:27 am
Wrong as in inefficient: living with 4 points in sente (well, maybe white doesn't connect but then you have a 7 pt gote yose for later) is unconditionally better than living with 3 points in gote.
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by cyclops Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:15 am
Sverre wrote: cyclops wrote: I take care of the problems, everyone else ( except Sverre ) of the solutions.
What's that supposed to mean?
Well, you were the master solver 5 years ago, so you are discharged now. But OC you are most welcome to participate. I remember you solved most problems by
at a18.
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by cyclops Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:13 pm
What if
at 7 in sverre's diagram?
solution: (?)
$$B continuation: b defeats this variant at 1
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$B continuation: b defeats this variant at 1
Wrong as in dead or wrong as in inefficient? 
at a18.
at 7 in sverre's diagram?