Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Higher level discussions, analysis of professional games, etc., go here.
Post Reply
User avatar
ez4u
Oza
Posts: 2414
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:15 pm
Rank: Jp 6 dan
GD Posts: 0
KGS: ez4u
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Has thanked: 2351 times
Been thanked: 1332 times

Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by ez4u »

On November 8th the final games were played to decide the three open places in Japan's Meijin League. I believe no one has commented on the fact that Kansai Kiin players captured all three slots. Sakai Hideyuki 8p beat Kim Sujun 8p, Yuki Satoshi 9p beat Nakano Yasuhiro 9p, and Murakawa Daisuke 7p beat Komatsu Hideki 9p. I have to guess that it has been a while since that last happened!
Dave Sigaty
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
pwaldron
Lives in gote
Posts: 409
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 8:40 am
GD Posts: 1072
Has thanked: 29 times
Been thanked: 182 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by pwaldron »

Thanks very much for the news. It's nice to get the finer details of the Japanese go scene.

How is the Kansai Ki-in sweep going over in Tokyo? Is there still (was there ever?) a bitter rivalry between the Nihon Ki-in and the Kansai Ki-in, or more like being fans of different sports teams?
p2501
Lives in gote
Posts: 598
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:25 am
Rank: 4 kyu
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: p2501
Location: Germany, Berlin
Has thanked: 331 times
Been thanked: 101 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by p2501 »

edited: duh
Last edited by p2501 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
ez4u
Oza
Posts: 2414
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:15 pm
Rank: Jp 6 dan
GD Posts: 0
KGS: ez4u
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Has thanked: 2351 times
Been thanked: 1332 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by ez4u »

pwaldron wrote:Thanks very much for the news. It's nice to get the finer details of the Japanese go scene.

How is the Kansai Ki-in sweep going over in Tokyo? Is there still (was there ever?) a bitter rivalry between the Nihon Ki-in and the Kansai Ki-in, or more like being fans of different sports teams?
A Japanese blogger mentioned it. As far as I know there was no mention of the results on the Nihon Kiin website except for the usual update of the tournament tables. Of course it happened just as everyone was getting ready for Game 7 of this year's match, so perhaps they can be forgiven (or was it a case of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil from the Tokyo POV? :blackeye: )
stormtroopers see hear speak no evil.jpeg
stormtroopers see hear speak no evil.jpeg (15.38 KiB) Viewed 5479 times
Dave Sigaty
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
User avatar
OtakuViking
Lives in gote
Posts: 329
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:54 am
Rank: 6D Tygem
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: pluspy
Location: Denmark
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 65 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by OtakuViking »

Really happy to see Fujisawa-sensei's students succeed ^_^
User avatar
oren
Oza
Posts: 2777
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:54 pm
GD Posts: 0
KGS: oren
Tygem: oren740, orenl
IGS: oren
Wbaduk: oren
Location: Seattle, WA
Has thanked: 251 times
Been thanked: 549 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by oren »

I find it interesting too that they were all Kansai Kiin, but the rest of the league is all Nihon Kiin. Reversing it, I'm kind of surprised that was the case, since there are quite strong players in Kansai Kiin.

Looking at the last results, what happened to Yuki Satoshi going 0-8? I really liked his games after seeing him play in NHK and a bit on Igo Focus. That's a horrible slump.

How do players who grow up around Osaka decide whether to go with Nihon Kiin or Kansai Kiin? Is Kansai Kiin annoyed at the success of Iyama Yuta or happy that someone from Osaka has been so successful at the top.
skydyr
Oza
Posts: 2495
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:06 am
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: skydyr
Online playing schedule: When my wife is out.
Location: DC
Has thanked: 156 times
Been thanked: 436 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by skydyr »

p2501 wrote:
pwaldron wrote:How is the Kansai Ki-in sweep going over in Tokyo? Is there still (was there ever?) a bitter rivalry between the Nihon Ki-in and the Kansai Ki-in, or more like being fans of different sports teams?
I think it's described fairly detailed in John Fairbarns 'Power':
http://senseis.xmp.net/?PowerHoninboShu ... eNihonKiIn
http://www.hebsacker-verlag.de/brillian ... -4569.html
Crazy hard game!

I don't know how much of that rivalry is still present today.
I have not read that book yet, but I'm pretty sure the rival organization is Karigane Juniichi's Kiseisha and not the Kansai Ki-in.
p2501
Lives in gote
Posts: 598
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:25 am
Rank: 4 kyu
GD Posts: 0
Universal go server handle: p2501
Location: Germany, Berlin
Has thanked: 331 times
Been thanked: 101 times

Re: Meijin League open slots swept by Kansai Kiin

Post by p2501 »

skydyr wrote:
p2501 wrote:
pwaldron wrote:How is the Kansai Ki-in sweep going over in Tokyo? Is there still (was there ever?) a bitter rivalry between the Nihon Ki-in and the Kansai Ki-in, or more like being fans of different sports teams?
I think it's described fairly detailed in John Fairbarns 'Power':
http://senseis.xmp.net/?PowerHoninboShu ... eNihonKiIn
http://www.hebsacker-verlag.de/brillian ... -4569.html
Crazy hard game!

I don't know how much of that rivalry is still present today.
I have not read that book yet, but I'm pretty sure the rival organization is Karigane Juniichi's Kiseisha and not the Kansai Ki-in.
You are right, I mixed it up. Sorry.
Post Reply