It is currently Sat May 03, 2025 5:55 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #1 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:42 pm 
Lives in gote

Posts: 641
Liked others: 142
Was liked: 438
GD Posts: 9
It would be appreciated, thank-you. And maybe with some sophisticated layouts like these:

ImageImageImageImageImageImageImage

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #2 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:31 pm 
Oza

Posts: 3723
Liked others: 20
Was liked: 4671
Quote:
I mention this because of the typesetting process I use: LaTeX plus the igo package; see its documentation at http://ctan.open-source-solution.org/fonts/igo/igo.pdf


The first seven diagrams in the pdf file have wonky lines. I stopped reading at that point.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #3 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:59 pm 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 844
Liked others: 180
Was liked: 151
Rank: 3d
GD Posts: 422
KGS: komi
hanekomu wrote:
John Fairbairn wrote:
The first seven diagrams in the pdf file have wonky lines. I stopped reading at that point.


That's too bad, but it's probably your PDF viewer. Try a different magnification. There are no wonky lines in my PDF viewer, nor in the printed versions.

I would not use it if it produced rubbish.


The diagrams are very attractive, but I too am experiencing this. I'm on Windows 7, using Adobe Acrobat reader, the desktop client and the browser plugin. I've tried at various zoom levels, including 100% or "actual size". No matter what the zoom is, at least some diagrams have "wonky" lines. Depending on the zoom, different diagrams experience the "wonky" effect.

This is at 100% zoom:

Attachment:
File comment: Wonky diagram
wonky.png
wonky.png [ 25.38 KiB | Viewed 15543 times ]

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #4 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:08 pm 
Oza

Posts: 3723
Liked others: 20
Was liked: 4671
Quote:
That's too bad, but it's probably your PDF viewer. Try a different magnification. There are no wonky lines in my PDF viewer, nor in the printed versions.


I use the Adobe viewer, which seems to be the main one most buyers would use. I tried all magnifications from 10% to 800%. The defects were there at all magnifications, but at the higher ones other defects became evident (extra lines beside stones, lines not corner butting up accurately at corners, etc).

On the iPad, using the app PDFReader, the defects are also evident.

Since I scanned the text a little on second perusal, you may wish to note the following:

"The vicinity of living stones is small." This is peculiar English to me. Maybe it means "the area near living stones is small"?

"Please appreciate Black's unwasteful shape." This is translaterese and I'm not entirely sure what the unusual word "unwasteful" means. Does it all mean "Do understand how efficient Black's shape is"?

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #5 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:31 pm 
Lives in sente
User avatar

Posts: 921
Liked others: 401
Was liked: 164
Rank: German 2 dan
I have used a similar package for LaTeX and also had the "wonky lines" problem. I found out that it doesn't appear in print, and since my "shipping" product was print, I was okay. I had the impression that it was due to pixel rounding errors in the PDF screen display. Since it uses special fonts for display (as far as I recall), I suspect that those fonts might lack some sub-dot precision.

Nowadays, I would perhaps use some selfmade macros based on tikz.

_________________
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject:
Post #6 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:01 pm 
Honinbo
User avatar

Posts: 8859
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Liked others: 349
Was liked: 2076
GD Posts: 312
I was just curious about the "wonky" lines. I also see them at all zoom levels.
FireFox 16.0.2, Windows Vista -- whatever the default/current PDF plugged-in viewer:
Attachment:
Wonky_Lines.jpg
Wonky_Lines.jpg [ 55.32 KiB | Viewed 15504 times ]

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #7 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:03 pm 
Tengen

Posts: 4382
Location: Caldas da Rainha, Portugal
Liked others: 499
Was liked: 733
Rank: AGA 3k
GD Posts: 65
OGS: Hyperpape 4k
Fwiw, I did not have any problem with wonky lines, using document viewer 3.4 for Ubuntu 12.04. I hope you figure out the issues, because this is interesting.

_________________
Occupy Babel!

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #8 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:09 pm 
Oza

Posts: 3723
Liked others: 20
Was liked: 4671
One thing this thread shows already is that making go diagrams is hard work. I made around 2,000 for "Shuei" :cry:

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #9 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:09 pm 
Oza

Posts: 3723
Liked others: 20
Was liked: 4671
One thing this thread shows already is that making go diagrams is hard work. I made around 2,000 for "Shuei" :cry:

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject:
Post #10 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:15 pm 
Honinbo
User avatar

Posts: 8859
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Liked others: 349
Was liked: 2076
GD Posts: 312
At higher zoom levels, the pixelated (not anti-aliased) stones become more apparent,
and you can still see the wonki-ness in the lines, appearing as bamboo joints (pun intended :)):
Attachment:
Jagged.jpg
Jagged.jpg [ 33.29 KiB | Viewed 15495 times ]

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #11 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:12 am 
Lives with ko

Posts: 159
Liked others: 5
Was liked: 36
Rank: EGF 3d
Is there something to transform sgf diagrams to igo/latex diagrams?
Would that be useful for you? I am sceptical because producing sgf files then tweaking a scripts output to your liking could be slower than doing it directly.

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #12 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:45 am 
Dies in gote

Posts: 49
Liked others: 2
Was liked: 11
Rank: OGS around 12k
OGS: hibbs
The wonky lines seem to be an issue:
I see perfect diagrams on the iPad with Safari. On Windows 7 I see wonky lines with both Foxit reader and Adobe acrobat (although the wonkiness is different, Foxit shows more of the "bamboo joints"). It also happens when printing...

Top
 Profile  
 
Offline
 Post subject: Re: Go book typesetting with LaTeX and the igo package
Post #13 Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:39 am 
Beginner

Posts: 1
Liked others: 0
Was liked: 0
Rank: YC 10K
Marcel Grünauer wrote:
logan wrote:
It would be appreciated, thank-you. And maybe with some sophisticated layouts like these


Here are some sample pages; the first two are from the strategy book I mentioned; the third one is from some notes intended for beginners that I started to write.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/604862/latex-igo-sample.pdf

They use a rather simple layout.

The pages you mention all look doable in LaTeX except for maybe the fancy background images.


Hello Marcel, I can't download the file by the link you posted, could you please send me one. My email is panqihg@gmail.com. Thanks a lot!

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group