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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: tsumego #29
Post #1 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:26 pm 
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Day #29 December 3rd
The next 3 problems took 20 posts 5 years ago. Join in and have fun.
#29a Advanced problem
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|............
$$|OXXXX.O.....
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

#29b Intermediate problem
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[go]$$Bc
$$---------
$$|.O...X..
$$|.O..OX..
$$|.O.O..X.
$$|.XXXXX..
$$|........[/go]

#29c Elementary problem
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------
$$|XXXO..
$$|XOOOX.
$$|.OXXX.
$$|OOX,..
$$|.XX...
$$|......[/go]
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Offline Josh Hatch
 Post subject: Re: tsumego #29
Post #2 Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:33 pm 
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#29a Advanced problem
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|............
$$|OXXXXaO.c...
$$|.OOOXObXXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

a and b don't work because of c. Letting white play c seems to mean death, so:
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|............
$$|OXXXX.O1....
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

#29b Intermediate problem
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[go]$$Bc
$$---------
$$|.O.1.X..
$$|.O..OX..
$$|.O.O..X.
$$|.XXXXX..
$$|........[/go]

#29c Elementary problem
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------
$$|XXXO..
$$|XOOOX.
$$|2OXXX.
$$|OOX,..
$$|1XX...
$$|......[/go]

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[go]$$Bc
$$-------
$$|.1.O..
$$|.OOOX.
$$|OOXXX.
$$|OOX,..
$$|XXX...
$$|......[/go]
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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: #29a
Post #3 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:11 am 
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For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try :w2: j19. Does it work?
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Offline Josh Hatch
 Post subject: Re: #29a
Post #4 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:58 pm 
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cyclops wrote:
For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try :w2: j19. Does it work?

No.
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......7.256.
$$|OXXXX.O1.34.
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|.......425..
$$|OXXXX.O1.3..
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]
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Offline logan
 Post subject: Re: #29a
Post #5 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:01 pm 
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Josh Hatch wrote:
cyclops wrote:
For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try :w2: j19. Does it work?

No.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......7.256.
$$|OXXXX.O1.34.
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|.......425..
$$|OXXXX.O1.3..
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]
6?
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......6425..
$$|OXXXX.O1.3..
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]
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Offline Josh Hatch
 Post subject: Re: #29a
Post #6 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:00 pm 
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logan wrote:
Josh Hatch wrote:
cyclops wrote:
For the sake of discussion.
being w I would try :w2: j19. Does it work?

No.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......7.256.
$$|OXXXX.O1.34.
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|.......425..
$$|OXXXX.O1.3..
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]
6?
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......6425..
$$|OXXXX.O1.3..
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

Well, this was my idea.
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......6425..
$$|OXXXX7O193..
$$|.OOOXO8XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

looking at it again though, I guess I missed this:
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[go]$$Bc
$$-------------
$$|......6425..
$$|OXXXX7O1.38.
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]

:oops:
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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: tsumego #29
Post #7 Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:47 pm 
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I just want to say thank you for posting these! I'm really enjoying trying to solve them, even if I'm not always posting the solutions. This advanced problem is pretty tricky, I haven't quite got it yet...

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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: Re: tsumego #29
Post #8 Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:40 am 
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"If the mountain doesn't move to the prophet, the prophet moves to the mountain instead" (Dutch proverb).

I propose :b1: at J1.
One variant in the next diagram, others in the attached file.
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[go]$$Bc 2@7
$$ +-------------------------
$$ | . . . . . 6 5 7 1 4 . .
$$ | O X X X X . O 3 . . . .
$$ | . O O O X O . X X O O .
$$ | . . . , O X X X O , . .
$$ | . . . O . O O O . O . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]



So where is the nonsense?


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Offline jts
 Post subject: Re: tsumego #29
Post #9 Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:37 am 
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The English version is with come and go... "if the mountain will not come to Muhammad, Muhammad will go to the mountain."
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Offline cyclops
 Post subject: Re: tsumego #29
Post #10 Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:09 pm 
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lets do it jts' way:
Tommie wrote:
5 years ago:
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[go]$$Bc ko
$$-------------
$$|......4216.
$$|OXXXX5O3a7..
$$|.OOOXO.XXOO.
$$|...,OXXXO,..
$$|...O.OOO.O..
$$|............[/go]



I almost got it. :sad:
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