Why are escapers allowed to play other games...

[daal]

@ Annihilist - I do see your point - I just disagree with it. I've also given the exact same advise to people who have been the subject of verbal abuse that you give: it's in your power to not let it get to you. Unfortunately, some people can't find that power, and being verbally abused is for them a terrible experience. I think you are dismissing this possibility. At the same time, you are exaggerating the severity of the thing that gets under your skin. By even comparing being escaped on to physical abuse, you are blowing it way out of proportion. It doesn't block you from playing games - it just prevents you from finishing that one game, and in no way prevents the server from functioning.

I also think you are dismissing the possibility that if a server does nothing to protect its users against verbal abuse, it might also do harm to the server. I am a Kaya fan, and as you probably know, they have a simple system that effectively prevents escapers. To combat the problem of verbal abuse, they have a muzzle system. Unfortunately, since the server is young, there have been times when too few people are online to muzzle an offensive jerk, and more than once, I've found myself wishing for things that many dislike about kgs: a restrictive TOS and a ban-hammer wielding admin. If Kaya were to become a place where haters could freely spew their vile, I'm sure it would wither away and die.

You continue to claim that the one problem other people have is subjective and the problem you have is objective. I don't see it that way. Both are real problems, and a server has to find a balance to assure that it's members prefer to play there rather than elsewhere. KGS, its makers and operators, have come up with a system that addresses the concerns of people being verbally abused, people with bad connections and people being escaped on, and objectively, they don't seem to be on the brink of disaster. You may feel that their escaper policy is inadequate, but if your argument is that other people's concerns can easily be dismissed, then I don't think it should come as a surprise when others say the same about yours.

[Annihilist]

@ Annihilist - I do see your point - I just disagree with it. I've also given the exact same advise to people who have been the subject of verbal abuse that you give: it's in your power to not let it get to you. Unfortunately, some people can't find that power, and being verbally abused is for them a terrible experience. I think you are dismissing this possibility. At the same time, you are exaggerating the severity of the thing that gets under your skin. By even comparing being escaped on to physical abuse, you are blowing it way out of proportion. It doesn't block you from playing games - it just prevents you from finishing that one game, and in no way prevents the server from functioning.

I also think you are dismissing the possibility that if a server does nothing to protect its users against verbal abuse, it might also do harm to the server. I am a Kaya fan, and as you probably know, they have a simple system that effectively prevents escapers. To combat the problem of verbal abuse, they have a muzzle system. Unfortunately, since the server is young, there have been times when too few people are online to muzzle an offensive jerk, and more than once, I've found myself wishing for things that many dislike about kgs: a restrictive TOS and a ban-hammer wielding admin. If Kaya were to become a place where haters could freely spew their vile, I'm sure it would wither away and die.

You continue to claim that the one problem other people have is subjective and the problem you have is objective. I don't see it that way. Both are real problems, and a server has to find a balance to assure that it's members prefer to play there rather than elsewhere. KGS, its makers and operators, have come up with a system that addresses the concerns of people being verbally abused, people with bad connections and people being escaped on, and objectively, they don't seem to be on the brink of disaster. You may feel that their escaper policy is inadequate, but if your argument is that other people's concerns can easily be dismissed, then I don't think it should come as a surprise when others say the same about yours.

Yeah, I'll concede you make more sense than me here.