#184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This looks fun. I've read out a few sequences, it looks interesting anyway and I should learn something.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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I thought I couldn't jump cut before I played that move. Stupid depressed brain is slow.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . 2 . O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . 2 3 O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nobi, nobi, nobi. This was the response that I was least worried about. P15 would have complicated things.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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I need to read further, but doesn't Black at D13 remove any chance of an eye and kill the dragon? (Bear in mind I've only glanced; I could be wrong.)
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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@marcus
Marcus wrote:I need to read further, but doesn't Black at D13 remove any chance of an eye and kill the dragon? (Bear in mind I've only glanced; I could be wrong.)

I think white can allow black to connect and use the forcing moves to make an eye at G14.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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@skydyr:
skydyr wrote:I think white can allow black to connect and use the forcing moves to make an eye at G14.


Ah, yes. I think you are right. Damn, meed better intuition. :mrgreen: :)
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . 2 3 O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . 4 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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At observers:

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[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O 1 . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X W . . 2 3 O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . 4 a . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . b . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . y O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . x . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . xx . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . z . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok so here are my thoughts on the current position.

I imagine here will push with a and I'll block with b. After that he'll probably invade around x, I'd really like to play there. If he invades I will try and split his group in the centre with the one around y.

His huge group at G11 still doesn't have two eyes, although it will be easy for him to make two eyes, but I will try and get some forcing moves against it to attack R8 or B2. The plan: make him live small.

Anyway I expect it to get messy from here on in.

My current count: I have about 10 on the bottom, 10 in the right corner (if I get a move around x this should be much more), a couple on the left side and a couple in the centre, so maybe 30-40 points. My opponent has about 15 on the top, depending if I get the monkey jump or not, 20 in the top right corner, maybe 8-10 in the bottom left, again depends on if I can pull out the stone at B2 and again depending on what happens around 5-10 points on the right side. So black is ahead by my count, but as they say in this game- anything can happen :)
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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It seems my opponent is deep in :study:

The anticipation of his next move is killing me :mrgreen:
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Sorry, I feel like crap at the moment.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Nah bother Bhoy!
Take your time.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Tom asked to restart this so:

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[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . 4 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nothing interesting about this, forces another move from Tom to connect then I play Q12. Playing Q12 immediately invites a bunch of atari nonsense.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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So here we go!

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[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: none
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . 4 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . 6 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm88 Prisoners: :b1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O , . . X X . X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . X . . . O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X . O . O . . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . 6 . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 C X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think I can kill the group on the right but right now I don't think it's alive. By making this group solid I think I'm threatening making the right live small and getting my group on the left alive whilst doing it. We'll see how Tom reacts, I think reducing myself to one clearly weak group cannot be bad here.
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