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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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i dont know what he is thinking but it sure is creative.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Wcm106 Move 106 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O 1 O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I was tempted to play this, but I can't read it completely to be sure it works, so I'm playing the bad shape safety move. :-?
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[go]$$Bcm105 Tempted
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X 4 X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O 3 O 2 , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O 5 1 . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X 6 . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If black cuts directly:
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[go]$$Bcm105 Alternative 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O 2 O 3 5 X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . 1 4 O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm105 Alternative 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O 6 . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O 2 O 3 4 X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . 1 5 O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Here's the game so far:
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Bcm107 Move 107 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Fight by sacrificing.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Violence wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm107 Move 107 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Fight by sacrificing.

For Violence:
What do you think the chances are your teammates will understand this? :razz:
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Wcm108 Move 108 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X 1 . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Whoops, forgot it was my move!

Move to come later.

I want to play F8. Is it worth giving up the corner?
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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To Schultz:

Daniel's chances, I think are quite good. Jordus... I have no clue what Jordus is doing or thinking. He's no longer looking at either of our moves.
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[go]$$Bcm109 Move 109 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is just as big as the corner. Consider that if white plays down there again it will still have some aji and white will have played two gote moves to kill it. This move gives us J4 and F11 as big follow-ups.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Wcm110 Move 110 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . 1 X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm, I'd have rather had Daniel's point. Don't get me wrong the corner's yummy, but we could have had more cake and eaten some of it I think. After this:

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[go]$$Wcm108 Move 108 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . a O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . b 1 X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O d , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . X c . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


... we can aim at all these positions. Black can connect at "c" but it's a bit small and slow. Now we are sealed in and black at "d" is huge. However, if we don't take the corner, we've been sealed in for nothing. Blergh.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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[go]$$Bcm111 Move 111 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X . O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . 1 . . X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Have to make sure that group has enough liberties... I am feeling that capturing white in the middle is becoming a good possibility....
I'm thinking...
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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...

Did...

... did we just die in gote?

... if white tenukis, I'm resigning.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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Move tomorrow.
I have no idea what just happened after my last turn. I was expecting us to cut black at the top, not have to make two eyes down here... I'm not even sure if we can kill black's corner before being killed...
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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And I hope it is a tenuki. Black's still just dead right?

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[go]$$Bcm111 Move 111 Prisoners White 0 Black 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O . . O . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X O X O X O X . X |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . O . . . . X . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . . . . . X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . . . X X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . X . . . O X O O . X . . |
$$ | . O X O O X . X O . . . O X O . O X . |
$$ | . O X O . O O O . , X X X X O . O X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X 2 O . . O O X X O O . |
$$ | . 1 . b X O . X . . . X O X O . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This 112 looks nice, and "a" should kill Black regardless of how he tried to follow it up. If he plays "a", "b" kills. "111" is a very odd attempt to live in the corner.
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Re: 3v3 Malkovitch Rengo #1

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There's no capturing race because white can play around J4. Maybe this leaves a ko, I'll read it more after Phelan responds. If there's a ko, that makes my last move look even better.
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