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Offline lovelove
 Post subject: Try this one.
Post #1 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:37 am 
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black to play

from Kwon Gapryong academy's tsumego book


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Offline logan
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Post #2 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:48 am 
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Too difficult for me!

I'd always thought of holding a tsumego contest here or there, it'd sounded fun.

Maybe I can post one. It looks more silly than difficult:
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It's fun to think that Black made some awkward line of stones, then played away so many times yet still manages to live. White must feel so awful!
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Offline Unusedname
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Post #3 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:38 am 
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i think...

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[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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idk...

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[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O 5 3 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . 2 X X X X . . .
$$ | a 4 . O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . b . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]



Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O 2 5 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 3 4 X X X X . . .
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$$ ----------------------[/go]



Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
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$$ | O 7 5 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 4 3 X X X X . . .
$$ | . . 6 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]



but then I can't think of anything for this
i'm guessing you have to play 3 and try to make a dead shape inside?

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[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . 2 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . . X X X X . . .
$$ | . . 3 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]


i'm gonna look at it a bit more
but you can let me know if i'm way off.

edit:

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[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . 2 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 4 . X X X X . . .
$$ | . 5 3 O 9 X O . X . .
$$ | . O 6 7 8 O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]


this was kinda interesting.

there are is better W4 and W6 but this weakness makes me think i'm close.

edit2: ok ok i think i got one

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[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
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$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . 2 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 5 6 X X X X . . .
$$ | 9 4 3 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O 8 7 . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . 2 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 4 7 X X X X . . .
$$ | . 5 3 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . 6 . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
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$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
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$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . 2 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 4 6 X X X X . . .
$$ | . 5 3 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . 7 . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]
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Offline lovelove
 Post subject: Re: Try this one.
Post #4 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:42 am 
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . 2 , X . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . 4 X X X X . . .
$$ | . . 3 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]

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Post #5 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:04 pm 
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I think I found the answer.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . . . X . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . X X X X . . .
$$ | 1 . . O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]

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Post #6 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:25 pm 
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logan wrote:
I think I found the answer.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . . . X . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . X X X X . . .
$$ | 1 . . O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]

You're a genius.

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Post #7 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:29 pm 
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Answer
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | 8 6 O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O 5 . . X . . . . , .
$$ | 7 . . 2 X X X X . . .
$$ | 1 3 4 O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . 9 . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]

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Post #8 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:42 pm 
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lovelove wrote:
logan wrote:
I think I found the answer.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . . . X . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . X X X X . . .
$$ | 1 . . O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]

You're a genius.

Yep. Watch out Yi Sedol!!!

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Post #9 Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:51 pm 
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logan wrote:
lovelove wrote:
logan wrote:
I think I found the answer.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm1 1. Black to play
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | X X X X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . .
$$ | O . . . X . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . X X X X . . .
$$ | 1 . . O . X O . X . .
$$ | . O . . . O X . . . .
$$ ----------------------[/go]

You're a genius.

Yep. Watch out Yi Sedol!!!

:scratch:

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