37th Kisei

[oren]

https://ssl.nihonkiin.or.jp/37th-kisei/
http://kisei.yomiuri.co.jp/

Cho U vs Iyama Yuta will start playing game 1 Thursday (Wednesday evening for US) in Okinawa.

$500k to the winner of the series. I'm looking forward to this matchup.

[Uberdude]

Iyama currently holds 5 of the big 7 Japanese titles (Honinbo, Tengen, Oza, Gosei, Judan). I wonder if he can make it all 7. I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?

[oren]

Uberdude, I don't think anyone has held all 7. It's rare that anyone has held the big 3 at the same time. Cho U is playing to keep the Kisei for a fourth straight term and Iyama for the chance to have six of the seven major titles.

Here was the match to decide the challenger to Cho U.

(;
EV[37th Kisei challenger decision match]
KM[6.5]
FF[3]
SZ[19]
GM[1]
PW[Iyama Yuta]
WR[Honinbo]
DT[2012-11-08]
BR[9d]
RE[W+0.5]
PB[Takao Shinji]
;B[pd];W[dd];B[qp];W[dq];B[oq];W[ck];B[nc];W[qj];B[ql];W[qg];B[qe]
;W[oj];B[gp];W[do];B[jp];W[fc];B[ol];W[lq];B[lo];W[nq];B[nr];W[op]
;B[mq];W[np];B[mr];W[qn];B[pq];W[rl];B[rk];W[qk];B[rm];W[pl];B[qm]
;W[pm];B[rj];W[ri];B[rn];W[om];B[jd];W[lm];B[be];W[bd];B[ce];W[cd]
;B[ci];W[dg];B[cg];W[ch];B[bh];W[dh];B[bj];W[lc];B[ld];W[kd];B[ke]
;W[kc];B[le];W[di];B[jc];W[cj];B[bi];W[bk];B[df];W[bg];B[bf];W[cf]
;B[cq];W[cg];B[dp];W[ep];B[cp];W[er];B[eo];W[fo];B[en];W[fp];B[dr]
;W[fn];B[dn];W[jb];B[ib];W[lb];B[ie];W[nb];B[ob];W[mc];B[nd];W[pb]
;B[oa];W[na];B[pc];W[ja];B[cm];W[jn];B[jo];W[in];B[ki];W[jf];B[kg]
;W[je];B[hd];W[jg];B[fd];W[gc];B[hc];W[kf];B[lf];W[lg];B[kh];W[mg]
;B[nf];W[hf];B[if];W[jh];B[hg];W[ji];B[la];W[ka];B[ec];W[ed];B[eb]
;W[gd];B[fe];W[ge];B[ff];W[gf];B[gg];W[fg];B[fh];W[eg];B[gb];W[ef]
;B[fb];W[ee];B[jj];W[kj];B[lj];W[kk];B[li];W[ij];B[ng];W[lk];B[ni]
;W[nj];B[mj];W[iq];B[jq];W[jr];B[kr];W[mk];B[ph];W[sl];B[pn];W[ro]
;B[qo];W[sn];B[ig];W[an];B[on];W[nm];B[mn];W[ip];B[eq];W[fq];B[ir]
;W[hr];B[js];W[rf];B[cb];W[sm];B[qn];W[rd];B[re];W[se];B[rc];W[em]
;B[io];W[ho];B[gj];W[gk];B[bc];W[ad];B[bn];W[hj];B[ii];W[jk];B[fj]
;W[sc];B[rb];W[dq];B[ih];W[jj];B[eq];W[id];B[ic];W[dq];B[mm];W[cr]
;B[eq];W[hi];B[gi];W[dq];B[ia];W[ma];B[eq];W[hh];B[gh];W[dq];B[gr]
;W[bo];B[co];W[bm];B[eq];W[cn];B[br];W[gq];B[bn];W[dq];B[cs];W[hs]
;B[qf];W[pg];B[oh];W[rh];B[bl];W[cn];B[hp];W[hq];B[bn];W[md];B[me]
;W[cn];B[hn];W[dm];B[bn];W[mh];B[am];W[nh];B[go];W[ak];B[og];W[gn]
;B[ho];W[hm];B[oi];W[mi];B[cl];W[fk];B[rp];W[sj];B[so];W[sk];B[nl]
;W[pk];B[km];W[kn];B[ln];W[pf];B[sb];W[ml];B[sd];W[oe];B[ne];W[sc]
;B[ko];W[jm];B[sd];W[nn];B[no];W[sc];B[ll];W[kl];B[sd];W[sf];B[el]
;W[dl];B[dk];W[fm];B[ej];W[dj];B[ek];W[lm];B[es];W[fs];B[fl];W[gl]
;B[eq];W[ds];B[pe];W[of];B[es];W[dq];B[qh];W[eq];B[qd];W[ds];B[rg]
;W[sg];B[es];W[is];B[jr];W[ds];B[od];W[rg];B[es];W[al];B[ao];W[ds]
;B[cr];W[dc];B[db];W[ac];B[ab];W[cc];B[bb];W[ei];B[he];W[es])

[lemmata]

I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?

No one has ever done so.

In fact, Cho Chikun is the only one to have ever held the top three titles (Kisei, Meijin, Honinbo) simultaneously.

[rpchuang]

I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?

No one has ever done so.

In fact, Cho Chikun is the only one to have ever held the top three titles (Kisei, Meijin, Honinbo) simultaneously.

That would be the Grand Slam of Go!

[handa711]

Anyone know where to watch this live? IGS isn't broadcasting.

[oren]

wbaduk has it live.

This page shows the moves.

http://118.151.176.73/kisei.yomi/kisei/ ... 7ban01.htm

[oren]

Time used in the first day

Cho U: 2:45
Iyama Yuta: 4:45

[oren]

I know Cho Chikun has won all 7, but has anyone ever held them simultaneously?

Cho U also had the grand slam, but not all at one time.

[JuicesGo]

Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.

[handa711]

How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won...

[lovelove]

How to read the result on Wbaduk? I watched the whole game and still doesn't know who won...

W+5.5

[lovelove]

Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones

[quantumf]

Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones

What? That move is not hane at the head of two stones - its kosumi at the head of two stones, which is not a proverb I've ever heard of

[lovelove]

Can anyone explain to me what b93 accomplishes in the challenger match? Its that slow type of honte move that pros play that I never quite grasp the meaning behind it.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?HaneAtTheHeadOfTwoStones

What? That move is not hane at the head of two stones - its kosumi at the head of two stones, which is not a proverb I've ever heard of

b93 is hane for sure if my eyes aren't wrong.