Twitchy Go
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by Twitchy Go Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:18 pm
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
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A 4-4 point temporarily settles the corner. Extending at 3 is a very big move. White would still like to extend from his group, as would of course black. Even if this allows him to pressure my lower group, I can't let white get a move around
as well as the first move in the lower right corner.
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by DJLLAP Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:53 pm
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
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I am aiming at a move at "a".
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0If I dive straight in:
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0What I am hoping for:
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
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Twitchy Go
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by Twitchy Go Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:15 am
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
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$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0I played the marked stone to prevent white from jumping out at a in sente. And the push at 4 doesn't seem any more severe against blacks position. Not to mention blocking would make my group even more over concentrated.
And with my stone at C 10 I don't see how this is helping white build very much territory. Still it would be nice to give my bottom group more security, so I'm approaching the corner. High instead of low because the marked stone is low.
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by DJLLAP Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:45 pm
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
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This seems to be a difficult situation for both of us, but I think that B's move is a mistake. the following standard joseki on a empty board is clearly bad for W. Black makes a moyo and can now come back and block at "a", leaving him in much too good a position.
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0One variation that I think is possible in the actual game is this:
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0It I also really want to play at "a" since it looks to me like a defensive move is then needed around "b", and it would set up my previously planned invasion at "c". B probably wont reply according to my plans, but I think anything that doesn't capitalize on the double high approach available to him, will be a local loss in the corner. which will make things worthwhile for W.
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by DJLLAP Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:57 pm
The reason I like the invasion at "A" is because I think that the black stone at c10 is an over extension. It just looks too thin. I would have played a move at "b".
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0See this invasion plan:
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0W is able to destroy B's moyo, create a small amount of center potential, and isolate the upper left corner. I haven't done a lot of reading, but it seems to me that B may not be totally alive on the bottom either.
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by Twitchy Go Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:47 pm
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
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This fixes any problems I might have had in the future for this group(after ignoring
18). In addition it strengthens my last move by putting pressure on the pincering stone.
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by DJLLAP Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:39 am
$$cm21 Captures B:0 W:0
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I tried out a lot of different moves here. It seems a difficult situation to not hurt myself. "D" seems to lead to a large corner, but giving up my pincer stone. "a" seems too passive and will be sure to make my pincer stone a target of attack. "C" led to some very favorable variations, and also some really bad ones. I can't exactly plan on my opponent making a misread because we have so much time to think. I have been trying to find a variation that makes the peep at "f" severe, but I have yet to find one. I feel as if the game is getting out of my control. Starting with my block at E6, I feel like I have been one step behind. Maybe that is how W is supposed to be since she always is one move behind.
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0The Response I expect
$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm15 Captures B:0 W:0It seems to me that L4 has good fighting potential in this position. It looks isolated, but B is thinner than he seems (I think). "A" and "B" are possible follow up moves
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by Twitchy Go Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:48 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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$$cm Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm Captures B:0 W:0Whites marked stone seems like it is a special tactic for a very specific strategy. Unfortunately I can't for the life of me figure out what it might be!
I decided to just approach from the other side. I like this move because white would probably like to play at 'a', but then his marked stone is just inefficient. And if he pincers and I go into the corner it will also look somewhat silly. But since I have no clue what white 21 does, I can't really talk about its merits or problems.
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by DJLLAP Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:44 pm
Twitchy Go, I see my mistake, but the current move is 23. Black is always odd in an even game
For the life of me I can't predict what he will play at all. Twitch is like the king of tenuki. That being said, this seems like a difficult move to respond to. I am considering a and b. I am not sure how I would respond if he does not respond to b with c. If he does, I will immediately play a. I will play through many variations and post my move later.
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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by DJLLAP Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:17 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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by Twitchy Go Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:04 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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by DJLLAP Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:24 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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This last move seems like a mistake to me. It isn't even in the list of moves I considered might be played. I am fine letting him have a little bit of life in the corner if it means that I can destroy all potential for B on the right side. Here are two possible variations:
$$cm25 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm25 Captures B:0 W:0B is contained in the corner. If W attaches at "A", she can block at "b" in sente.
$$cm25 Captures B:0 W:0
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$cm25 Captures B:0 W:0Leads to a fight that looks like it is W's favor to me.
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by Twitchy Go Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:28 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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by DJLLAP Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:24 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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by Twitchy Go Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:43 pm
$$cm23 Captures B:0 W:0
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as well as the first move in the lower right corner.
And with my stone at C 10 I don't see how this is helping white build very much territory. Still it would be nice to give my bottom group more security, so I'm approaching the corner. High instead of low because the marked stone is low.
18). In addition it strengthens my last move by putting pressure on the pincering stone.
