It is currently Fri May 09, 2025 1:24 pm

View unanswered posts | View active topics View unread posts | View new posts | View your posts


Board index » L19²GO (Malkovich) » 1-on-1 Malkovich games

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 11 of 16
  [ 317 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ... 16  Next
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #201 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:06 am 
Honinbo

Posts: 9552
Liked others: 1602
Was liked: 1712
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
@MW:
Thanks, that's a good explanation. I don't know what "talruk" is, but the gist of what you are saying makes sense.

_________________
be immersed
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #202 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:13 am 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
Kirby wrote:
@MW:
Thanks, that's a good explanation. I don't know what "talruk" is, but the gist of what you are saying makes sense.


"talruk" means flexablilty or bounce back. ex: spring has talruk.
in baduk it means it is not easily killed in one or two move.

edit:
or better yet: Resiliency

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson


Last edited by Magicwand on Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
This post by Magicwand was liked by: Bonobo
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #203 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:47 am 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
Kirby:
sorry for not haveing any diag before...
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X X X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X B . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


if you compare two diag above..you can see that atari dont really help but hurt you.

also. having a and b trade as my sente my group is more likely to secure life.
i think everyone has some intuition that white group is very hard to kill cleanly.
i compare this with Ing's cup game 4. Fan kept taking points and daring opponent to kill his group. but it wasnt easy to kill whole group. once Fan reached the point that he knows that he won...made it clean and simple. i think that is what will happen in this game soon.
i already have advantage and need to finish clean.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O W . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X B . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #204 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:07 pm 
Honinbo

Posts: 9552
Liked others: 1602
Was liked: 1712
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
MW:
Great explanations, both with the diagrams and about talruk. I guess it is probably 탄력.

Anyway, the diagrams illustrate that white is in better shape by not playing the atari. If I look at just this diagram:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X B . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


it is clear that I prefer if white did not make the atari earlier, as you illustrated.

It is not so clear to me when I use the diagram from earlier:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O c . . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X X B O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


In this case, black could select not to initiate the first diagram of this post. So that's a little confusing to me.

But the point about resiliency and additional flexibility is very clear. Even if black plays as in the last diagram I posted, it still seems more flexible than a white atari in the area (even if it is sente for white).

_________________
be immersed
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Jedo
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #205 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:00 pm 
Lives in gote
User avatar

Posts: 588
Location: NY
Liked others: 124
Was liked: 46
Rank: 2D KGS
Is this black's best followup?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 2 . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . 1 O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What do you guys think?

_________________
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." -- Bruce Lee
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #206 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:19 pm 
Judan
User avatar

Posts: 5546
Location: Banbeck Vale
Liked others: 1104
Was liked: 1457
Rank: 1D AGA
GD Posts: 1512
Kaya handle: Test
I'm flattered - and a bit worried - by all the viewer commments. At worst, I imagine observers shaking their virtual heads, saying 'how could Joaz miss THAT?'. At best, I imagine people who have been beaten by MW stocking up on popcorn, rooting for me.

I've got a busy day scheduled tomorrow, and then it will take a while to figure out my next move ( I regard it as no exaggeration to say that the game could easily be won or lost on the next move. ) So enjoy your kibbitzing; I'll probably post on Sunday.

_________________
Help make L19 more organized. Make an index: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5207
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #207 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:55 pm 
Honinbo

Posts: 9552
Liked others: 1602
Was liked: 1712
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해

_________________
be immersed

This post by Kirby was liked by: topazg
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #208 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:56 pm 
Honinbo

Posts: 9552
Liked others: 1602
Was liked: 1712
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해

_________________
be immersed
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline EdLee
 Post subject:
Post #209 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:56 pm 
Honinbo
User avatar

Posts: 8859
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Liked others: 349
Was liked: 2076
GD Posts: 312
Magicwand wrote:
even if i kill my whole group i think i still win with sente playing at bottom middle endgame..
Jedo wrote:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . 2 . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . 1 O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$W Prisoners: :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O 9 |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X 7 |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . 0 8 |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 1 2 . 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 3 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wm11 Prisoners: :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O O |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . X X |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O X . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
W ahead?

This post by EdLee was liked by: Kirby
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline logan
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #210 Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:04 am 
Lives in gote

Posts: 641
Liked others: 142
Was liked: 438
GD Posts: 9
Kirby wrote:


This post by logan was liked by: Kirby
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #211 Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:07 am 
Honinbo

Posts: 9552
Liked others: 1602
Was liked: 1712
KGS: Kirby
Tygem: 커비라고해
Good point, logan. I hadn't thought of that.

_________________
be immersed
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #212 Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:05 pm 
Judan
User avatar

Posts: 5546
Location: Banbeck Vale
Liked others: 1104
Was liked: 1457
Rank: 1D AGA
GD Posts: 1512
Kaya handle: Test
Well, I have gotten the kind of game that I wanted: one in which MW will have to fight me in the middle, and I have more influence.

I've sacrificed the F16/F17 invading stones for two moves ( one to play B6 and one to have sente now ). In return, I'm betting that I can kill his group. If I do, by my count I win - even if he gets all the big yose points.

R12 is sente for him, gote for me.

K2/Ls is gote for both of us WOOOOPPPSS! Wait a sec! IT IS SENTE FOR ME!

I think I am going to have to analyze a bit more. Sorry, but I won't be posting a move today as expected.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O # . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . C O . . . . 5 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


K2 is sente, and a rather big one at that. In conjuction with B2, it can kill.

I just realized that I might be able to win this with straightforward yose. I must think a bit. :scratch:

_________________
Help make L19 more organized. Make an index: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5207
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #213 Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:23 pm 
Judan

Posts: 6727
Location: Cambridge, UK
Liked others: 436
Was liked: 3720
Rank: UK 4 dan
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
Joaz Banbeck wrote:
K2 is sente, and a rather big one at that. In conjuction with B2, it can kill.

Err, no... see :w6:. 1d should be able to find that move. It's just big yose. W helping his left side group is probably bigger now.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O # . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . 6 . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . C O . . . . 5 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #214 Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:53 pm 
Judan
User avatar

Posts: 5546
Location: Banbeck Vale
Liked others: 1104
Was liked: 1457
Rank: 1D AGA
GD Posts: 1512
Kaya handle: Test
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . B X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

While looking at the endgame, I found that this is sente to connect at M13.

_________________
Help make L19 more organized. Make an index: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5207
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #215 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:05 am 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
O15
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X W O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #216 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:10 am 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
i just counted and reassured by lead.
i am ahead 100%. i am guessing about 10 points.
if i get to play bottom hane then it will be twenty points lead.
i will not fight anymore and let him have everything he wants.

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline EdLee
 Post subject:
Post #217 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:21 am 
Honinbo
User avatar

Posts: 8859
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Liked others: 349
Was liked: 2076
GD Posts: 312
Joaz Banbeck wrote:
I just realized that I might be able to win this with straightforward yose.
Magicwand wrote:
i just counted and reassured by lead.
i am ahead 100%. i am guessing about 10 points.
if i get to play bottom hane then it will be twenty points lead.
One of them is wrong? :)
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #218 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:35 am 
Judan
User avatar

Posts: 5546
Location: Banbeck Vale
Liked others: 1104
Was liked: 1457
Rank: 1D AGA
GD Posts: 1512
Kaya handle: Test
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm107 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm going to treat the opening stages of the attack as yose. If he runs out and lives, that's ok, because he will make very few points doing it, and he will end in gote. Then I get the big yose points.

_________________
Help make L19 more organized. Make an index: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5207
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #219 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:39 am 
Judan

Posts: 6727
Location: Cambridge, UK
Liked others: 436
Was liked: 3720
Rank: UK 4 dan
KGS: Uberdude 4d
OGS: Uberdude 7d
c9 is not an attack: it is a contact move ("attack from a distance") and helps white make shape at d9. e9 peep looks like the way to attack.
Top
 Profile  
 
Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #220 Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:45 am 
Tengen
User avatar

Posts: 4844
Location: Mechanicsburg, PA
Liked others: 62
Was liked: 505
Rank: Wbaduk 7D
KGS: magicwand
Tygem: magicwand
Wbaduk: rlatkfkd
DGS: magicwand
OGS: magicwand
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm107 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
as i promised...i will give him everything..

below is best he can do.. i think my two big endgame is bigger than my group pluse i still have sente and aji at 'a'
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm107 Prisoners: white: 2 black: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O . X . . . . O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X , . X O . O X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X O O O O . O 4 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . 3 . . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . . . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 2 W 1 a . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

_________________
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 11 of 16
  [ 317 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 ... 16  Next

Board index » L19²GO (Malkovich) » 1-on-1 Malkovich games

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group