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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #261 Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:48 pm 
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topazg wrote:
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I'm curious, why did you feel the need to protect Joaz' last ko threat - does this not work fine:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X 4 . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . . . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . 1 3 O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O C |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X 2 |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It seemed like this is a loss of only a few points for a bigger gain - are you hoping to just win the ko with no loss at all?


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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . 3 . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . 1 . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O C |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X 2 |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #262 Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:50 pm 
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3 is not the followup, how about where MW played instead?


Ah, the problems of only reading one move option, not that that's a failing of mine or anything :roll:
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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #263 Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:39 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X B . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


By my count, I had to win that ko to win in yose. If he can take it and not pay for having done so, I'm doomed.

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 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #264 Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:10 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . W . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O C O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Uberdude
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #265 Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:12 pm 
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White lost some yose on the left with his ko threats: a16 was a 2 points double sente. It probably should be black's privilege, but in a handicap game white's ;-) .
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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #266 Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . B X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I've had a long day, so I may be missing something, but..

If I understand what is going on, MW was looking at this, in which he merely transfers the ko:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O 3 4 X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X 1 2 5 . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...and then realized that I can play 5 like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . . 5 X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O X O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X . 3 4 X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X 1 2 . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Maybe he has been taking painkillers for his finger.

I thought that he would have done better to answer my threat by taking N15. He still had several good threats himself at M1 and A14.

Or it could be that I am missing something. But, regardless, I have to play P14.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #267 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:31 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 5 black: 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . . W . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: #197 Magicwand vs Joaz Banbeck
Post #268 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:36 am 
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Does anyone have an accurate prisoner count? Thanks.
After a few mistakes on both sides, this is very close. My count of the board says that I am ahead by 3 points. But he has a 2 or 3 point lead in prisoners.

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Post #269 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:53 am 
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Post #270 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:52 pm 
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i guess my opponent is in counting mode..
i also counted and it was closer than i thought.
but i think i still have advantage. (at least that is what i like to believe.)
few moves later we will know who win this game for sure...

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #271 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:29 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 8 black: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . B O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't know if this is a good ko for me to fight. But regardless, I can't let him slide under to Q2.

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Post #272 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:46 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 8 black: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #273 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:30 am 
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on this trade...who gained?
i try to cound and count it is almost equal IMO.
may be i lose a point or two. but i still simplified the board and probably keep my sente so trade was good for white.
i wonder what professionals say about this trade???

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Post #274 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:15 am 
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@Magicwand
In a handicap game I would expect the stronger player to gain a lot from ko fight trades, so I think in this respect black needn't be that upset as his profit from his threat is quite large (though on the plus side for you he made his r12 wasted). From my armchair I assumed you would answer it, did you not have enough threats? As you say you got sente for the rest of the yose which is important.
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Post #275 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:08 am 
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In a handicap game I would expect the stronger player to gain a lot from ko fight trades, so I think in this respect black needn't be that upset as his profit from his threat is quite large (though on the plus side for you he made his r12 wasted). From my armchair I assumed you would answer it, did you not have enough threats? As you say you got sente for the rest of the yose which is important.

Usually it is true in ko fight.. i still think i could have won the fight and take my sente but his ko threat was not big enough for me to answer.
i am still not sure who lost on that trade. initally i thought i lost few points...then after some more thinking i think i gained because of sente.

three things..i didnt back down (maybe i should have but...not my style), i made the board much more simple, and i think i won this game.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #276 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:25 am 
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how many point was that ko threat???
i assessed it would be about 19 points.

how many points LR corner?? i think it is about 16 points + alpha and i take sente.
in conclusion black played 3 point gote move that is less than taking two stone.
so ...black playing ko fight was not good idea... which means black should not have atari and try to reverse sente my right.

19 points appears big..but it is gote and finally it doesnt help him win this game.
so it was wrong threat..(he didnt have enough threat anyway.)

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Post #277 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:14 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 8 black: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . B O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Again, little choice: I can't let him have Q2

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #278 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:54 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 8 black: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #279 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:21 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: white: 8 black: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X . . B X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X . X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


@Observers:
I'd like to tenuki. but I can't.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoners: white: 8 black: 5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . . . . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | O O X O X X . . . . O . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O X O . O X . . O . X X O . . |
$$ | X O . X O . . O . O O O . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X O X O X . . O X O X O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O O . . X X X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X . . . X O O O O . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . X X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O O . . . , . . . X . , X . . |
$$ | . X X O X O . O . X . . O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . O X O . . X . |
$$ | . X . O O X X . . O . . O X O X X O . |
$$ | . X O X X . O . O . O . O . O O O . O |
$$ | . X . X . X X O . O X X X 8 6 7 X O . |
$$ | . . . X . O O X . O X O . X 5 X . X O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O X . . . 1 2 X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O X . . 3 X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 4 . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The weak spot in my group is at the top. He can push in at the bottom, but he ends in gote.

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Post #280 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:30 am 
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@ Joaz
That move surprised me, but I didn't think much. Did you consider any other moves to defend, and if so how did you count them?
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