Life in 19x19 Title Tournament, Round 1 and 2 draws

Post by **Solomon** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:53 pm

Quick review for Aphelion's game (focuses mostly on Aphelion's moves, since he helped me out for something else):

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:40 am

Thanks for the great review Araban! How do you find some of those sequences you listed? With some of them (for example, the cut at top left), I was vaguely aware that they exist, but I can't find them / play them out because I couldn't read out in game and the outcome seemed like they could be disaster for me if the sequence doesn't work. I suppose its almost all just reading, but is there a knowledge component to it that you can say - I know this works, so you can play out the sequence even if you can't read out the sequence completely?

Post by **Solomon** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:52 am

Aphelion wrote:Thanks for the great review Araban! How do you find some of those sequences you listed? With some of them (for example, the cut at top left), I was vaguely aware that they exist, but I can't find them / play them out because I couldn't read out in game and the outcome seemed like they could be disaster for me if the sequence doesn't work. I suppose its almost all just reading, but is there a knowledge component to it that you can say - I know this works, so you can play out the sequence even if you can't read out the sequence completely?

I'd say some of it is reading, but a lot of it is intuition and prior knowledge. Using the same example of the cut on the top left, the cut immediately came to my mind after H17 was played because that move protects the cut at G17, which in turn allows for you to cut W at E16. This is something that I picked up from reading a textbook a long time ago that just stuck to my mind because the top pattern is pretty common and so putting what I've learned to application wasn't difficult. Furthermore, there are a handful of joseki variations that have similar shape and so bring up the same discussion.

Intuition also helped me find the cut because the overall shape of White's corner ranks of bad aji if White doesn't bamboo joint at D15. As you improve your aji senses will improve as well and good/bad shape is critical in sensing whether there is a good chance or not there may be an exploit in your opponent's shape. Also, separating your opponent's groups is always something to keep in mind, and since such a cut certainly accomplishes this, it was immediately considered.

So yes, there is definitely a knowledge component to it, as well as intuition; both of which are built up as you move up the ranks.

POGO · Post by **POGO** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:23 am

Well i lost after two horrible misreads xDD

daniel_the_smith · Post by **daniel_the_smith** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:48 pm

People should announce when they plan to play so we can watch if we happen to be available

GoCat · Post by **GoCat** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:51 pm

daniel_the_smith wrote:People should announce when they plan to play so we can watch if we happen to be available

What??? I finally muster the courage to play in a online, RT tournament, and you say I might have an audience?

Yikes!

dfan · Post by **dfan** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:57 pm

Look at it this way, you'll get a game review in real time

I think anything that increases interest in the tournament within the group is a good thing.

Phelan · Post by **Phelan** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:38 pm

I've been trying to schedule my game with schultz, but so far no luck. :/

kokomi · Post by **kokomi** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:35 pm

daniel_the_smith wrote:People should announce when they plan to play so we can watch if we happen to be available

agree, better have a calendar, but it makes the things difficult to manage

kokomi · Post by **kokomi** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:36 pm

GoCat wrote:
daniel_the_smith wrote:People should announce when they plan to play so we can watch if we happen to be available

What??? I finally muster the courage to play in a online, RT tournament, and you say I might have an audience? Yikes!

I feel good to have an audience, but usually i don't have any. And if there happens to be one, he must come to watch my opponent.

schultz · Post by **schultz** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:26 pm

Phelan wrote:I've been trying to schedule my game with schultz, but so far no luck. :/

We'll get a time together that works eventually.

And it's a great idea letting people know when the matches are scheduled. Even if that does add some pressure that there may be an audience to watch.

tj86430 · Post by **tj86430** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:13 pm

I will play against Mosdefgo on Wednesday, he can announce the exact time if it's ok with him.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:49 pm

tj86430 wrote:I will play against Mosdefgo on Wednesday, he can announce the exact time if it's ok with him.

Oooh, I in particular am eager to see how this game goes =D

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:37 am

I'm having difficulty tracking down fuchsnoir for the next game. Can anyone confirm that his KGS account is polarfuchs?

schultz · Post by **schultz** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:25 pm

Looks like Phelan and I will be playing Wednesday 18:00 MDT (GMT-6) (otherwise known as Thursday 01:00 (GMT+1)).

Let me know if I interpreted your last message incorrectly Phelan. I look forward to our game!

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