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Offline EdLee
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Post #161 Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:40 am 
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I woke up this morning...drip, drip, drip... raining today.
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Yea, :w86: is not small. I had thought about the same place,
but wasn't sure if it would end up gote for B:
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Obviously, Tim thought :b85:(= :bc: ) is gote. Let's see...
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[go]$$B
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . B . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 3 W X . X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline TIM82
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Post #163 Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:04 am 
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I woke up this morning...drip, drip, drip... raining today.


Hoping the weather improves there. I've had a wonderful Easter holiday - peace, good company and very good food, sunny spring days...

Got an xbox kinetic for holidays too - first console I have ever owned, hopefully it won't destroy all my free time in the future :D


Last edited by TIM82 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:36 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Offline EdLee
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[go]$$Bm87 :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Finally fixed (a), which has been sitting there since the corner joseki;
it's probably not that big, but it's there.
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[go]$$Bm87 :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O X a X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #166 Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bm87 :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O X 2 X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Does Ed hope for the one below? it does not look too apetizing for me...
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[go]$$Bm87 :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . 5 . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 3 . X . X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


However, I can cut with 88, and then either as below (not sure yet of exact placement of 92, but thereabouts)
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[go]$$Bm87 :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 6 . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 3 . X 2 X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X 5 X 4 . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


or like this, which seems also ok. (Ed could play 91 at 92, but then I eat 87, and get some points on left side.) This seems like best for Ed, so most likely way to go? I Ed tries to run a way with the stone above 92, cutting my groups, it seems I may get to attack the connection at a-a. If he doesn't run, I will connect and get some points.
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[go]$$Bm87 :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . a . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . a . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 5 . X 2 X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X 3 X 6 . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$B :w1:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 1 O X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X 3 X 2 . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm89 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 1 W X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm89 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 1 . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X 3 X 2 . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Feel free to vary if you want :)

Surprisingly hard for me to say whether A or B below is better. I tried out all kinds of variations, still not sure. Chose A because it is safer and I currently feel quite positive about this game. If I felt I was behind, would try B.

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[go]$$Bm89 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . b . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . a . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 1 . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X 3 X 2 . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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I was looking at :w1::
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[go]$$W :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . 1 . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm93 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 1 . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm93 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 1 . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . 2 . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Was again unsure between 94 and A below, tried to choose the safer move because I'm still happy with the position. Also, 94 threatens to cut the three black stones to the left off, A would enable black to protect this cut in sente by playing at 94. If black now protects the cut, I intend to enclose my territory with a play somewhere between A and D. Wondering though whether I could insert the sequence shown earlier in bottom right in sente first...

btw. if black plays C, I intend to reply D. Playing hane on top of C seems not to work.

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[go]$$Bm93 :w3:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . d . . . a . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O 1 . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O c . . . 2 . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


A very quick try at counting, to train myself. Some expected sequences added for clarification.

black right side: 42
black top left: 11
black bottom left: 13 (inc 1 uncaptured prisoners)
black middle 5 (inc 2 uncaptures prisoners) + some more probably
prisoners 3
= 74

White bottom 40 (inc 3 uncaptures prisoners) + some more in middle probably
white top: 27
komi 6,5
= 73,5

So if black gets 95-99, it's about even. That's why I'm wondering about inserting the sequence in bottom right now. If I got that + an enclosement in current play area, the game seems to be winnable :)

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[go]$$Bm95 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | ? ? . . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . . . . ? |
$$ | ? ? . . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . O O X . ? |
$$ | ? ? X O O . O ? ? O ? ? ? . . X ? ? ? |
$$ | ? X ? X . . . . . ? ? ? O O . X ? ? ? |
$$ | ? ? . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . ? ? |
$$ | ? X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X ? ? |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . ? X . . O X ? ? |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . ? |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . 4 3 ? ? |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . 2 1 ? ? |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . ? |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . O . O X ? ? |
$$ | ? X O O ? ? ? ? O . . . . . . X X ? ? |
$$ | X ? X O X ? ? ? O . X X O O . . ? ? ? |
$$ | ? X X X O ? ? ? ? . 6 O . . . . X ? ? |
$$ | ? ? O X O O ? ? ? O X ? . . . , . ? ? |
$$ | ? X X O O X ? ? ? O ? ? O . . X ? ? ? |
$$ | ? X ? X O O ? ? ? ? ? ? ? O 5 ? ? ? ? |
$$ | ? ? X X X O ? ? ? ? ? ? ? . . ? ? ? ? |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm95 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Nice one, but is it nice enough? Following was considered and rejected - not working in my reading, sadly:

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[go]$$Bm1 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . 0 . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 8 7 . 1 . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 9 5 6 3 . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O 4 2 . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I did not see any other options, as letting black cut my stones on the side is not good.
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I was expecting a messy fight. :w96: is a little unexpected. :scratch:
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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . 1 . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
Hi Tim, sorry I took so long. :-|
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[go]$$Bm97 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . 2 O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . 1 . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


EdLee wrote:
Hi Tim, sorry I took so long. :-|

No prob! :)

I am quite confident I have this game in bag. Let's see how badly I have misjudged things! :blackeye:

I expect the following: (8 at A, or B, or C, or something, have to think that through..)
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[go]$$Bm99 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 1 X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O c . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O b . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . a . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . 4 X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . 2 3 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 1 X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm99 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 1 X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O 2 . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I was just going to play 100 below, but then I realised black 103 is sente, threatening to cut. Thus black would get both good center and to defend in bottom right. Let's see what kind of exchanges we make in the center, but I would really like to get 100 below - it both limits black's corner and gives me possible claim to points around the marked area or further reduction of corner.

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[go]$$Bm99 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 1 X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , 5 . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . 6 . X . 3 . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . 4 O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O ? ? . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . ? ? . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O ? 8 X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . 2 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Chosen 100 defends against the cut 103 above would threaten, while whitling away the center. If black just blocks with 101, the cut at A seems potentially funny.
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[go]$$Bm99 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . 1 X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X a . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O 2 3 . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O X . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . O . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | X . X O X . . . O . X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O X O O . . . O X . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . O . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bm101 :w2:
$$ -----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . , . . O O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . O O X X . X X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . X X . . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . X O O X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . O O X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . X , . X . . . , 1 . . |
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