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Sounds fun, but it's not fair. It's easiest for me to improve, since I'm only 9k.
9k -> 7k is much easier then 1k -> 2d.

Regarding playing between ourselves, for me, it's fantastic.

Edit: we can make a group on KGS.
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vpopovic wrote: Edit: we can make a group on KGS.
Why not the Lifein19x19 room? :)
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oren wrote:
Why not the Lifein19x19 room? :)
Yup, KGS room. I'm still kind of noob, not so familiar with the terms :)
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He means there's already a life in 19 room that we can use. You'll find it under clubs in the room list.

I was thinking it would be fun to have a persistant handicap based on our results against each other. How about we start with proper handicap based on KGS ranks and then adjust it from there, perhaps every 2 consecutive wins? I'd be happy to take charge of keeping track of it.
vpopovic wrote:Sounds fun, but it's not fair. It's easiest for me to improve, since I'm only 9k.
9k -> 7k is much easier then 1k -> 2d.
That's why I chose 3 rivals of different strength. This way I have a hard, medium and easy goal, and though I didn't mention it I can't help but want be the first of us to reach shodan, which reverses the difficulty of beating each rival. :rambo:
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I agree completely with your idea. Just persuade other two and we can start :)
If we find this interesting, we can even arrange a small, regular league. That would be fun :)
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A small league sounds like fun :]
If you do start up I would like to join.
I think it's interesting to have a collection of games with the same people to see how you've both changed.
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Yeah I'd be up for this. It would be nice to play more people on L19x19 at the very least.
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This sounds fun. I'd be in.
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I don't know how small you'd want to keep this, but I'd also be interested--I am currently 11k KGS and after exams finish this week plan to spend more time studying go, looking to improve this summer. A small league sounds like lots of fun.
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@Splatted What do you think about this? I think a league with up to 10 people, weekly matches, round sistem where everybody plays with everybody twice, handicaps based on KGS rank, 6,5 komi, japanese rules, 30:00 + byoyomi 5 x 0:30.
With 10 people it would last 18 weeks (4,5 months).
People would have to play a scheduled game for that week anytime during the week, but they would be obliged to post sgf of a game reviewed by two players who played the match (since this is a studying league) till the end of Sunday (till 00:00).

What do you guys think, is this feasible?
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vpopovic wrote:@Splatted What do you think about this? I think a league with up to 10 people, weekly matches, round sistem where everybody plays with everybody twice, handicaps based on KGS rank, 6,5 komi, japanese rules, 30:00 + byoyomi 5 x 0:30.
With 10 people it would last 18 weeks (4,5 months).
People would have to play a scheduled game for that week anytime during the week, but they would be obliged to post sgf of a game reviewed by two players who played the match (since this is a studying league) till the end of Sunday (till 00:00).

What do you guys think, is this feasible?
That sounds more doable than my thought, which could be summed up as "simultaneous malkovich all the way"
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@vpopovic: Sorry but that's exactly the kind of thing I don't want to do. I'm already a member of the ASR league, which is very similar, and I feel that's enough of that for me. (See http://www.advancedstudyroom.com/ASR/introduction if you don't know what the ASR league is.)

@everyone:

What I want is just some regular opponents and competitive matches, so things like play quotas and obligatory reviews (though most of the time I will want to review) are definitely off the table. I'm also quite attatched to the idea of having personal handicaps becuase I think it adds a sense of significance to the matches while still allowing us to play as and when we please. Is anyone up for something like that?
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Splatted wrote:What I want is just some regular opponents and competitive matches, so things like play quotas and obligatory reviews (though most of the time I will want to review) are definitely off the table. I'm also quite attatched to the idea of having personal handicaps becuase I think it adds a sense of significance to the matches while still allowing us to play as and when we please. Is anyone up for something like that?
I would be happy with an informal group. We play each other when convenient and again when convenient sit down and review games together but no rush or pressure on any of us since things like the ASR and Study League Kyu exist if such things are what we want on a very prescribed and regular basis.
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That's what I thought you meant :]
I've been afk in the L19x19 room ever since I found out about it.
So let me know when you'd like to play a game.

Also the evolving handicap sounds like a great idea since you are supposed to be able to beat your opponent 50% of the time in an even game. It gives you a good way to measure improvement. Although it may be skewed by your opponents matching improvement.

I've rarely reviewed a game with an opponent afterword but I am willing to try.
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Re: Can I edit the title later?

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@Splatted Sorry, I wasn't aware of ASR. You're right, that's enough.
Regarding playing, just ring :)
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