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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #221 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:34 am 
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[go]$$Wcm154 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Deny sneaking into the corner
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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #222 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:33 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm154 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . 2 . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Making some eyes
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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #223 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:38 pm 
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Lest I'm misreading, Black has only one eye on top--even if White tenukis. White needs to be careful, however, not to give Black an eye in the center. One cooperative variation follows:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X 3 O 4 O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . 2 1 X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X 7 O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O 5 O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X 6 O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . 8 . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm9
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X X O O O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O 3 . 1 O X X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X X O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O X O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O 2 X O O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . O . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |[/go]

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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #224 Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:49 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm156 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . 1 X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Time to protect. This way i either connect or build two eyes.
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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #225 Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:37 am 
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[go]$$Wcm156 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 2 . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . 1 X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #226 Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:39 am 
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[go]$$Wcm158 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
According to my quick read, I can't kill him.
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[go]$$Wcm158 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . 3 4 . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 2 X 9 X 6 O . 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 1 X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X 8 X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O 0 . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm168 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X O X X O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X X X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O 3 O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 2 O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . 1 . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |[/go]
But I guess he needs to answer now that I've protected that two stones.
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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #227 Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:42 pm 
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opex was merciful and amnestied DJLLAP. :w1: kills as far as I can see.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline DJLLAP
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #228 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:36 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm158 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This means life unless I am missing something really big...
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Offline The Intrepid
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #229 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:27 pm 
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OK, plan B. It's time to make something happen inside of Black's territory on the bottom with something wild like :w1::
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . 1 . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #230 Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:29 am 
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[go]$$Wcm160 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O 1 . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X . . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Actually I doubt there will be anything interesting.. Yose left. And black is too far ahead for me to catch up. Looking for a place to resign
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 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #231 Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:40 am 
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The move in the game forces Black to reinforce his territory. Each such move makes a successful invasion less and less likely. Playing yose when behind by as large a margin as in the game leads to a certain defeat. Therefore, desperate measures were called for. After :w60:, White should thank the opponent for the game ... and hopefully make it known that he is available to play another Malkovich game :).

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Offline DJLLAP
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Post #232 Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:20 am 
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[go]$$Wcm160 Captures: b - 1, w - 8.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X X . X O . O X X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O X . X . O . O O X . , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O O X O . . O X O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X X X . O . O X O X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . O X . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . O O X X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . O O . O X X O X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O . X . O X O . O . O X . O . |
$$ | . O . O . . . . X O O O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O X O X . . O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . X O . O X X . . O . |
$$ | . O . . O O 1 . . . . . O X . O O . O |
$$ | . X O O . X X 2 . , X . X O O O . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X O X X O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . X O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Playing it safe. I don't need the hane. I am ahead in points, so if I can avoid complications this game should be in the bag.
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Offline opex
 Post subject: Re: #179 - DJLLAP vs opex
Post #233 Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:45 pm 
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Calm safe move. I don't see any way to catch up here. Makemashita :bow: Thank you for the game!
And thanks to observers for all the comments! Going to read them :)
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Offline DJLLAP
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Post #234 Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:33 pm 
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Thanks for the game Opex! I learned a lot from this game.
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