#184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . 8 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . 6 . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . 2 O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O 4 . 3 X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . 9 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, so I won the ko and lost some on top, I think I came out ahead though. The game is close now.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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I think White should have played from the other side--and not right away but after attacking the group in the center-left, first ( :w1: doesn't threaten to kill the group on the right, so is not sente). As I mentioned before, White's winning plan is to build territory in the middle. I haven't read here very thoroughly so I'm not sure how best to attack but maybe with "a" or "b."
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . b . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . a . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now, Black should destroy some of White's potential in the center by jumping to :b2:. This move also applies pressure on the White group above it, for it is not yet completely alive, either.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 2 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

However, Black needs to be careful not to die in case White robs him of eyespace on the edge with something like :w3:. Then, Black may fall into a splitting attack, but both Black groups should survive, in my estimation. The middle has plenty of space, plus the nearby White groups have weaknesses, too. Next, Black could consider playing :b4:, for example.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O O X X . 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . X . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Tom, I haven't been sleeping again so I'll delay my move until tomorrow. Sorry about that.

I'm behind now I think, I can't count it accurately at the moment but I've my potential around 60 on the board being generous and Tom's around 50 not counting the centre where I think he can get a bit more than I think. I'm going to assume as Tom has sente I'm not going to realise that potential and perhaps there'll be a swing of 20-25 points. It's hard for me to tell, harassing the bottom left is worth a lot but letting the righthand black group die is worth a lot too. It really is important who gets sente to play in the bottom left. The centre group isn't as weak as I first feared. Tom pulling out L13 is painful but not fatal. I can't harass the big white centre-right group without making the bottom right solid first and even then I can't harass it much. If I'm going to play passively I might as well just resign right now. I need to study this position a bit and see if there are weak points that I can poke at.

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O a . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . b . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



So the push to a doesn't look sente but if unanswered it allows the peep at b which allows the capture of the marked stone and possibly some harrassment of the right-hand white group. I prefer just peeping directly though, it sorts out my problems with my centre group. This does all work a lot better if the right-hand black group is alive though. I see a lot of eye-space there for it. Anyway, I'll think further on this.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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No problem, take your time.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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I changed my mind, I'll make a move before sleep because I like it a lot.

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners: :b1: :w5:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm happy with this move. It gives me miai of responding on the side for life (my least favourite option) or leaning on the bottom to make an eye while reducing, or just to make some eye shape and leave running open as an option, or just run and connect up top or bottom. If Tom takes away my eyespace I'll capture the L13 stone in a loose ladder, I'm not too bothered by C1 now as expanding into the centre to make eye space/territory both threatens to connect and has some potential with some forcing moves against his left group. If Tom jumps out above in response I'm left with invading, running or just responding to make eyes, so again I'll take L13. If Tom plays the N7 tesuji, O5 is rather annoying for him to deal with. If Tom takes the eyespace away I'll play M8 and put some pressure on his right-hand group. If he cuts the fighting gets interesting but I think I've enough options available after the cross cut.

Anyway, trying to stay active, trying to play a multi-purpose move. I may have read this very wrong but if one just plays passively you'll never learn anything.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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It's nice that boidhre sees the loose ladder shape, but I don't think there is one there.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Yeah, I also don't see how to capture L13:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . 4 O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 2 3 O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . 1 . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |[/go]
That said, he can use this to get some moves in sente, which might help him get another eye.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners: :b1: :w5:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Next I'll aim for a move around a, and induce moves in the b area. I'm sure he'll see this though. So let's see his response and then I'll decide what to do.
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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners: :b1: :w5:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . b . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . a . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O . . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As black, this exchange would make me cry.

I'm inclined to think that black could have invaded first and made a second eye on the right or ran to connect once the miai was taken.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

Post by lightvector »

The Intrepid wrote:
Yeah, I also don't see how to capture L13:
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . 4 O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 2 3 O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . 1 . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |[/go]
That said, he can use this to get some moves in sente, which might help him get another eye.

Black can actually use the threat to capture L13 to safely connect his group with no additional help. Certain moves in the center will also turn this sequence into an outright capture of L13. This makes black hard to attack.

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[go]$$Bc Black 11 at ''a''
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X 0 X O 1 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . 8 X 2 7 . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . 6 4 3 . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X 9 5 a . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Last edited by lightvector on Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners: :b1: :w5:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 3 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No guts, no glory I suppose. My right hand group is weak right now but I think I can survive an attack there. I'll be honest, for the past three weeks I've been living 48+ hour days, yesterday I was awake for 38 hours and really I'm not feeling in the best of it today so I'm bound to make mistakes but this is fun so I'll keep doing it.

The idea is how he responds after:

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 3 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X 4 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . 5 . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't see a way for the two white stones to live, though I may have missed something. This means my biggest liability on the board is taken care of and some pressure is put on White on the right. With :b8: I think I've enough options on the right to do this. Maybe not though. Eh, we'll see how Tom responds.
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 3 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . 4 . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What now Mr.Black!? :twisted:

Possible continuation....

Now my centre group is ok, I'm solidifying the bottom and :w17: in the diagram below extends help to my future possible weak group on the left. I feel I am ahead now, even though I haven't counted. His ponuki capture isn't worth that much, I don't think his J10 group was in much danger to be honest and it would be silly for me to attack it as what points would I gain from the attack!?? I feel this way is better, threaten to pull out L13 whilst making my weak right group stronger. I have a feeling that he will have to come back at a as well, in that case I'll play something like b to split his corner group off whilst lending a hand to my right side group.



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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 3 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X 5 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . 4 . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . a . 6 . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . b . . . . 9 7 . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 0 8 . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: #184 Boidhre vs Tomukaze

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Sorry Tom, real life has been crap for a while.

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[go]$$Bcm108 Prisoners: :b1: :w5:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O X . . . . O . X . O O X . |
$$ | . O O . O O . . X . X . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X X X O X . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . X O O O O O O O . X . X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X X O . X O O X . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . X X X O . O X . X O 3 . O X O . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X X X . . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O X O X . X , . 4 . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . O . O O . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 2 . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . O . . O . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move might be a mistake but this may be the biggest, or at least one of the biggest, moves for me on the board right now. If he pulls out that stone I don't mind. I think I can live on the right-hand side. I'm losing I think but I didn't want to complicate with all the aji and forcing moves in the bottom left corner. This might be a mistake.
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