My biggest problem with the use of the word "go" for the game is the ease, and subsequent frequency, of go puns.

It actually got so bad that my college go club has made a rule that members are not allowed to make go puns during meeting times...

As for professional games, I'm actually a fan of Korean go. If Japanese go is an art, Korean go is like a sport. The Korean games I've watched seem to have a calculated playstyle that I really like. Impressive and intense and brilliant. I would say Japanese games are my second favorite because of how elegant they seem. It's like the players are trying to not just find good moves but find beautiful moves. Some of their title matches have produced amazing games that I can just watch unfold in awe. Chinese is my least favorite of the three. Not sure why, but their games usually seem a bit too fighting heavy. Fighting games can be impressive and even beautiful. I watched a commentary on a Hu Yaoyu game that had an amazing life and death sequence at the end that actually left me open mouthed and laughing at its brilliance. But I have seen some Chinese games that just feel brutish to me - lots of direct forcing moves to build influence or points. I don't even know what to think of this Chinese game: http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/34787 It felt like white didn't even realize what was happening until it was way too late.

That being said, a bad Chinese pro game is still more interesting and entertaining than the best amateur games I've seen.

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It's funny, because Korean play is generally considered to be the most aggressive.

Can you get out of my forum? please!!

I think something wrong with your brain!! I dont want to say any more bad things. Just Get out of my forum. Ok?

I kind of like

WAIT! Gee.

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It could just be selection bias. I obviously haven't looked at every single game, but most of the Korean League games I've seen don't involve big fights. Here are the two most recent Korean League games on go4go.net:

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/34854 - By move 6 it looks like it could be a game from the 1800s with all 3-4s and low approaches. Park Jungwhan wins in 105 moves without killing anything. Arguably he just makes more points and wins - he's got a nearly 60 point corner that looks hard to reduce.

http://www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfview/34853 - This opening has pincers all over the place then the 4p and 5p seem to have a "who can make the bigger move" contest just to test who really has sente, then there is a big attack when black gets a weak group in the center, and finally white wins by killing off a giant group on the bottom.

So I guess country of origin is not the best way to judge games. Same country, same League, same day - two totally different games.

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"You have to walk before you can run. Black 1 was a walking move.
I blushed inwardly to recall the ignorant thoughts that had gone through
my mind before, when I had not realized the true worth of Black 1."
-Kageyama Toshiro on proper moves

I agree with you. That person is Chinese who was even trying to correct my British cousin's grammatical problems. Many Chinese in their own forum said tons of bad things about Africans, even they do not like me who is a China-born European. Sorry that, far away from the topic. If I troubled you, then please forgive me. Sorry.

Last but not least, I agree with your point that Japanese go is like an art ,Korean go is more like a sport. I also watched a lot of Japanese go championships. It really feels like some of them are more than a go player but an artist.

Agreed. Also, not sure if Korean play is still considered the most aggressive - I do know it to be pretty widely accepted a few years back, but it's possible that it has changed. I do think that it's still safe to say that Japanese play tends to be the most calm.

Actually, I never replied to you on Baidu Tieba - I have a hard time typing/writing Chinese. I did post this after recogniting you on here, though: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2492409484

Actually, I never replied to you on Baidu Tieba - I have a hard time typing/writing Chinese. I did post this after recogniting you on here, though: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2492409484[/quote]

Whatever!! Now I just want to get rid of Chinese go. And as my American friends said, sometimes 'origin' does not mean anything. So even I am China-born European, my parents are Chinese. I do not have to love Chinese Go. I will convince all my friends and family members to learn more things about Japanese go. You are not welcome to my forum!! I really regret a lot to trust Chinese. If it is not some Chinese people who asked me to send photos about my life and Go in my country, I wont say anything in Chinese Tiebar. Since I posted photos and messages there, they started to say bad thins about me. What is wrong with those people's brain. Now, they even do not allow me to delete my posts and photos. What a ironic shame on me!! So, Please get out!! Thanks a lot!!

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I don't believe that baduk has official hanja. Many Korean words are rooted from chinese characters, but as far as I know, baduk is not one of them.

Also, I agree that 囲 could be said to correspond to "surround", but I think that 碁 is not as general purpose as the english word, "game", used in more specific contexts (eg. igo, shogi).

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Nice !! Is that your disc and player?

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First a little bit weird, then a little bit homophobic, now hating on whole countries. And we're only on page 2.

Are we taking wagers on how long it will be before an admin needs to comment/ edit/ lock/ delete?

It's not your forum. Please stop asking people to leave.

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In his defense, I think he means "post" rather than forum.

It seems like the OP's posts now require approval - quick action by the mods! I was actually expecting him making his dislike of Americans known first.

Obviously, this Japanese lover may has been insulted by someone in Chinese forum and starts to propagate his theory of Japan go.I m just wondering why he keeps pushing people who disagree with his thought out of forum and claims this forum belongs to him?Thats totally absurd. In addition,he seems to be a little bit racist.

Shhhhh. Go and look at this: Aji’s Quest


(And did you really register for that comment, Ronon? Hello, I’m Tom, who are you?)

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is that really matter to u? wats the point