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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: 44. Violence (?d) vs. Magicwand (3d)
Post #141 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:50 pm 
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If b@a7, w@b7, no?

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Offline zinger
 Post subject: Re: 44. Violence (?d) vs. Magicwand (3d)
Post #142 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:00 pm 
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daniel_the_smith wrote:
If b@a7, w@b7, no?


Holy crap I think you're right. What total nonsense I just posted!

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Offline Violence
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Post #143 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X W . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #144 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . B O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Violence
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Post #145 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:56 pm 
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move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O W . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #146 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:04 am 
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@Magicwand:
Were the two stones at B6 and C6 a mis-read that you abandoned, or were you deliberately creating aji to use later?

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #147 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:48 am 
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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
@Magicwand:
Were the two stones at B6 and C6 a mis-read that you abandoned, or were you deliberately creating aji to use later?

tried to create aji but misread

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i looked at it and it has very intresting aji hidden. if i get one more marked liberty filled...then aji will come alive. so i didnt lose toomuch points on the exchange. my main goal now is to stablize the group at same time break through.
then he will be in hot water for a while.
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move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | 2 . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | 6 O O . B X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O C X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | 7 . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

edit: then again.. if he plays 2 to connect...i have nothing..

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Last edited by Magicwand on Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:08 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Offline Magicwand
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Post #148 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:02 am 
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . B X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #149 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:57 pm 
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move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . X X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . . W . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 44. Violence (?d) vs. Magicwand (3d)
Post #150 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:59 pm 
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move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . X X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . . O B . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Violence
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Post #151 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:19 pm 
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . X X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . . O X . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . W . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #152 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . X X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . X O X . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #153 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:56 am 
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B+R.

My thoughts on the game combined with Mingjiu's commentary:

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move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The marked exchange is pretty bad for white. I think my approach was reckless. Taking the corner is better.

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move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . 5 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . 4 . 3 . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . 2 . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Mingjiu recommends this sequence, to attack both sides.

Go Diagram
move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Wc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . 4 6 . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X 3 . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O . 2 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should hane first, allowing black to get 6 is too big, according to Mingjiu.

Go Diagram
move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O . . a . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Mingjiu: Black should finish the joseki. Playing at a is small. Conversely, however, I should hane instead, since you played that knight's move, the hane is much better than the knight jump I made.

Go Diagram
move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Bc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . 6 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 1 X 4 . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This plan isn't necessarily overplay, but the fighting will be hard for both sides.

Go Diagram
move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Wc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O W . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O . . . X O O . . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . . O . . . . . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This was a huge mistake too. If I play here, it's much much better for white. I misread, thinking that I could capture if I extended.


Go Diagram
move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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[go]$$Wc move # I don't care either. - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , O O . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X X . . . O . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X X . O X X . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O . X X O O 6 . . . . X . . X O . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O X X . X O . 4 1 2 . . O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 5 3 . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I misread this sequence, I forgot you had 6 until I play this out. From there, I think any winning chances I had go down the drain.




All in all, I think I played really recklessly this game, but I don't really think we're far apart at all in strength. I think I can beat you if I played more calmly. This kind of overaggression is usually what I use to destroy KGS 1-3d, so you're a much more balanced player than I first thought.

Best of three, switch colors, continue with even games?


Last edited by Violence on Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Offline SpongeBob
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Post #154 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:07 am 
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Congratulations, Magicwand! Very curious to see a revenge game.

Violence, you might want to edit your last diagram to switch black/white.

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Post #155 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:09 pm 
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Best of three, switch colors, continue with even games?


set it up and i will play if observers dont mind.

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Magicwand wrote:
Violence wrote:
Best of three, switch colors, continue with even games?


set it up and i will play if observers dont mind.


This observer wants to see it.

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I found the Phil Hellmuth comment hilarious, but Magicwand did win. I would be happy to see another game.

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