It could continue like this and this looks kind of like if he didn't atari at s13 first... hmmm and I don't think he could push through at black 2 here because his stones have too many cutting points.
I wonder how he's feeling about the game. Right now, I feel that the game is developing towards a competing moyo's game, which I am comfortable with. In my experience with competing moyo games the other player tends to make a bad invasion and I end up with too much territory. I don't think he'll do that, but his stones are low and if I get sente here, I feel like I have an advantage. But if I end in gote here, it's probably even. I'll try and see if I can take sente here.
Oh goodness, I guess we're gonna play the interesting stuff! So far graemy has consistently surprised me, so this is turning into quite a learning experience. I've never analyzed my early game as much as I have this game, so even if I lose horribly in the next 10 moves I'll be glad for the experience.
Captures: B=0 W=0
This seems rather unplayable for black unless I'm missing some crucial.
Is this the right punishment? I can't really think of something stronger here, but I guess I figured there'd be a stronger one. I'm loathe to give graemy sente here however...
Enough of the cut. I feel I'm either misreading something, or I just have poor positional judgement. Maybe it's better to just take the corner? This way is certainly not an option however...
I'm regretting not just taking the corner earlier. I feel I'm missing something, because I think I should be getting more out of my position here than I think I am so far. I guess we'll see how graemy responds and take it from there. No use worrying about moves that aren't played!
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To seek enlightenment, I consulted the pro game database. It turns out that what I said earlier (to attach to the stronger stone so as to attack the weaker one) is no longer the preferred way of playing among professionals in response to a double-approach following a two-space-pincer. For whatever reason, from 2007 onward, pros preferred to play in favor of "a" by a ratio of 19:1.
After reading through this position on my board for a bit, I now expect this response. I think this corner has turned into some sort of weird sacrifice version of an attachment joseki. graemy gets sente and some influence, and I get a huge corner. I think this is still better for me than the standard corner invasion, but time will tell
I'm not sure, though, that is Black's best move. Black should probably choose one of the other three moves seen in professional practice (see my earlier post).
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I'm not sure, though, that is Black's best move. Black should probably choose one of the other three moves seen in professional practice (see my earlier post).
Good point, but I still think this is bad for black.
No, this situation isn't bad for Black. Looking at the 4 pro games I found, Black can look optimistically into the future. In fact, I feel like playing Black in the current position. The situation is volatile, though, so small mistakes can have big consequences. Should be fun...
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No, this situation isn't bad for Black. Looking at the 4 pro games I found, Black can look optimistically into the future. In fact, I feel like playing Black in the current position. The situation is volatile, though, so small mistakes can have big consequences. Should be fun...
Interesting... I agree that it could go either way here, but I feel like white's in control and so has the advantage. I'm kinda seeing it differently now you've said that though, so I'll withdraw my judgement for a little while.
So, here I see two main choices for black. If black wants to live in the corner (not my first inclination), I'd look at something like this
Captures: B=0 W=0
This is the natural looking sequence to me, but I don't like the result. Black's P14 group is very heavy, but giving it up seems to give white too strong of a position. Small life in gote is just too slack I think
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Captures: B=0 W=0
As painful as it is to give up the corner, I'd take that here I think. Black has sente and some influence, plus some nice aji in the corner, even as large as it is.
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