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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Post #141 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:21 am 
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[go]$$Wcm72 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Broadly aiming towards the following:

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[go]$$Wcm72 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . X . 1 . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . 2 5 . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 6 O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: #205: The Intrepid vs. topazg: The Pistols
Post #142 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:58 am 
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[go]$$Wcm74 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
It seems topazg is of the mindset that either all of his stones live or none do.

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Offline topazg
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Post #143 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:48 am 
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[go]$$Wcm74 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #144 Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:32 pm 
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I can probably exchange :w1: for :b2: before jumping, but I should think about it some more. Also, I need to make sure that I don't need to exchange "a" for "b"--an exchange I'd rather avoid.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . X X . . |
$$ . . . . . . O O . |
$$ . . . O . O . . . |
$$ . . . . a . X O . |
$$ . . . X . X . O . |
$$ . . . b . X . 2 . |
$$ . 3 . O . O X X . |
$$ . . . . . O O X . |
$$ . . . . . . 1 O X |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]

Overall, it's rather clear that things have gone horrible wrong for Black on the right side. Black was already slightly behind beforehand, so now Black's position must be dire indeed. Barring a catastrophic error, I expect to win handily.

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Post #145 Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:25 am 
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[go]$$Wcm76 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . . O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
If Black jumps, I plan to jump, too, keeping the pressure on Black's entire group while gaining profit along the edge.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . X X . . |
$$ . . . . . . O O . |
$$ . . . O . O . . . |
$$ . . . . . . X O . |
$$ . 1 . X . X . O . |
$$ . . . . . X . . . |
$$ . 2 . O . O X X . |
$$ . . . . . O O X . |
$$ . . . . . . O O X |
$$ . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ------------------[/go]

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Post #146 Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:07 am 
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I just thought to make sure you did not miss my last move. Take as much time to think as you'd like, though.

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Post #147 Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:09 pm 
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I just sent topazg a private message, telling him that he's being missed on this forum. Hopefully he comes back to us. Also, I sure wouldn't mind getting this game going again. ;)

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Post #148 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:39 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm76 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . 2 O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb and sacrifice my whole group, and then count.

I don't like running with something so sad looking, and if I make something on the bottom (instead of running away and giving him the bottom) it's going to be not too unacceptable as an exchange.

If things look really bad afterwards, I can resign happily enough - I've been away for long enough I've lost any emotional investment in this game, so I'd rather just make it interesting and then see if it's worth continuing with :P
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Post #149 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:53 pm 
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And the game goes on! :D I'll need to think about the position a little bit, refresh my memory.

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Post #150 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:43 pm 
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White group in the bottom-right is pretty strong, so I can cut without needing to worry about that group. However, I suspect that topazg's plan is to use the cut to play a few forcing moves and then hit me with a tesuji at P8.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O 0 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . 1 2 . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So far, I can't find any lines where this "tesuji" actually works (as long as I play correctly, that is). I better make sure I'm not misreading here, though, as my making a big misread is topazg's only chance at a comback, as far as I can see.

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Post #151 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:44 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm78 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . 1 2 . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . 3 X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sorry for the delay. I needed to be sure that I found the most violent means by which to punish your overplay. ;)
There is some danger that I misread the following sequence but, for the moment, I'm confident in my reading.
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[go]$$Bc :b1: threatens "a"
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O a O 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X 1 O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . 5 3 4 . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Besides, the premise of the game was that the game would be decided by a ginormous fight. Well, here we go!

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Post #152 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:29 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm78 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . 1 2 . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . 3 X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . 4 . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Atari, extend. Whatever I'm planning to do this really is the only possible move.
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Post #153 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:31 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm82 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . X 1 . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
topazg's plan shall now be revealed. Drumroll, please ... :)

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Post #154 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm82 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . 2 O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . X 1 . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Some interesting possibilities now...

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[go]$$Wcm82 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . 6 2 O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . b 5 O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . 4 X 1 . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Because after this :b87: the ladder at "a" works, he's got a lot of problems if he doesn't just play for the kill of my corner dragon. So most of that bottom side hopefully should be mine after "b". It's a pain in the corner, but the group loss is probably less bad than the territory I'm gaining here (+ him gaining it if I had to run), and most of the bad aji is his elsewhere, so as long as his left side doesn't grow huge, this game hopefully will stay interesting.
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Post #155 Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:29 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm84 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Is this the plan and, if it is, why did topazg think it's good for him? :scratch: I hope I'm not missing something very obvious. One way or another, my move is forced.
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 5 . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 4 2 O X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . . X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #156 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:37 am 
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[go]$$Wcm84 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . 2 X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now let's see what happens I guess.
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Post #157 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:36 am 
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Well, someone's miscalculating here, that's for sure ... or maybe topazg sees the impending doom of his group and simply "looks for a place to resign," as they say. I'll take some time to think here to make certain that my earlier reading was correct, but I'm pretty sure I win this capturing--assuming I even need to fight a capturing race to begin with. :study:

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[go]$$Wcm86 Prisoners: :w1: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , . O X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . X X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I analyzed all the ways of playing for Black I could think of, and none of them enable Black to either rescue his group or gain sufficient compensation for the sacrifice. I do need to be mindful of Black trying to exploit the weakness at P8, but I found sufficient countermeasures against all such attempts in the current board position. I'll be watching P8 closely, though, as more stones get put on the board.

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[go]$$Wcm86 Prisoners: :w2: :b100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . X . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , 2 C X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . X X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Again, the only move I think. Nice and thick. Now White has unconditional sente to enjoy.
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Post #160 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:49 am 
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Okay, so it's a trade--a good one for White, needless to say. I think I need to make life in the corner with :w1:, but I'll check briefly if there isn't some clever way of going about this. Incidentally, Black seriously needs to worry about the marked Black stones.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X . X O X O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O X . O X X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . B B . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . B . . . O . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . O . |
$$ | . O O O O . . . . . . X O X . X . . . |
$$ | O X X X O X . . . , X . X O . O X X . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . . . X X O . O O X . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . 1 . O O X |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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