Move 30

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:36 pm

I like

at the border of two moyo's. Better than my O12. I only can appreciate

if I know how W's continuations depend on

and why it has to be played now.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:09 pm

Game 4

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm30 Cho Chikun (W) vs. O Rissei, 2000, 5.5 komi $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . X O . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O 3 . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 1 . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . 2 . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I like

because it is an apparently simple play, yet powerful and far sighted. It does not prevent Black from cutting off the White stones in the bottom left corner, but makes it unpleasant for Black to do so, while reducing Black's potential on the bottom side.

secures the corner and then White defends his stones and Black does likewise. Now

looks at both the bottom side and the center.

Uberdude · Post by **Uberdude** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:31 am

Cho Chikun's opponent has all four corners!

skydyr · Post by **skydyr** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:54 am

Uberdude wrote:Cho Chikun's opponent has all four corners!

It's clear why Cho Chikun won now. His opponent was black, after all.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:42 pm

Game 5

Satsugen's masterpiece

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm29 Honinbo Satsugen Meijin (W) vs. Inoue Shuntatsu, 1768, 2 stones, no komi $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , 0 . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . 7 X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . X X O . . . . . | $$ | . 5 3 . . . . . . . O . . O X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . 8 9 . . , O X . X O O O . . | $$ | . 6 . X . O . . O . O X . X X O . . . | $$ | . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

invades Black's corner. 38 is a big point, but White cannot make things too easy for Black.

looks both ways.

is tesuji to guard against the push and cut with sente.

Interesting how many of these masterpiece games end in a small loss. It is not easy to give a strong player two stones.

skydyr · Post by **skydyr** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:56 pm

Bill Spight wrote:Interesting how many of these masterpiece games end in a small loss. It is not easy to give a strong player two stones.

I was under the impression that 'masterpiece' was often used to describe those small loss against handicap games specifically, as opposed to general games of good play.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:56 pm

Game 6

In this game Yasui Sanchi, future Meijin, played Black. This was at the dawn of modern fuseki theory, and the opening looks funny to us.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm30 Honinbo Sanetsu (W) vs. Yasui Sanchi, 1647 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O . X . . X . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . , X . . . . , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . X . . X . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

is a dual purpose play, combining attack and defense. It strengthens the White group while preventing the Black group from forming a base. It has become a textbook play, but I still like it. Simple and strong.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Large scale attack $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O 4 X 7 . X . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . , X . 3 5 6 , . . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . 8 . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . 1 . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . X . . X . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

attacks the two White stones, but

goes after bigger game. I also like

, which sets up a large scale attack.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm39 Nice sacrifice $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O O . O O X X . X . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . , X . X X O 5 4 . . X . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . O 6 7 . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . . 8 . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . X . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . X . . X . O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I like

as well. It is a nice sacrifice to strengthen White's center group.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:38 am

Game 7

Dosaku's Miracle

Dosaku's play is amazing!

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm30 Dosaku (W) vs. Yasui Chitetsu, 1669 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . X . . . X . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . 2 , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . O . . O . . 1 3 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . O . . . O . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . X . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

reduces Black's framework while enlarging a very loose White framework.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm30 Black attacks $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . X . . . X . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . , 5 . . . X , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . O . . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . 8 . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . O . . . O . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . X . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

is a reducing play that threatens to cut through the thin White wall. Then

attacks the two White stones on the left side.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm38 White counterattacks $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . X . . . X 0 . O X . . . | $$ | . . . , O . . . X , . 9 . . X , X . . | $$ | . . O . . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 1 4 . . . 8 . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 2 . X . . . 7 . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . 3 . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . O . . . O . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . X . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

counterattacks, building a central framework with

and

. Then

launches a leaning attack.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm48 Counterattack continued $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . X . . X . . . X X . O X . . . | $$ | . . . , O . . . X , . O . . X , X . . | $$ | . . O . . O . . O O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . 1 X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . O . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X O O . O . . . O . . . . O . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . X O X . X . . . X . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

continues the counterattack.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:27 am

Game 8

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm30 Ishii Senji (W) vs. Tamura Yasuhisa, 1895 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . . . X , X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 . X . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O 5 . 3 . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . 6 . 1 . . O , O . . | $$ | . . O X . X . . . . X 2 X . . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Tamura was the future Honinbo Shusai Meijin.

The peep at

is simple and strong.

completes the connection. Then

forces White to make bad shape. After

secures territory,

goes on the attack.

drmwc · Post by **drmwc** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:42 am

Doasku's play in game 7 is astounding. Black's position at move 57 looks reasonable, but after white's 58-60-62 tesuji the poistion suddenly look white-ish as a moyo appears out of thin air.

I'd actually played over Game 8 recently, although I had no idea who either of the payers were. I assumed one was Shusai, since the book also has the group capturing masterpiece in it, but I hadn't worked out who and I was too lazy to put it into a search tool.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:31 am

Game 9

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm29 Honinbo Shuei (W) vs. Karigane Junichi, 2 stones, 1904 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . X . . X X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , O O X O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 8 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 1 . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . 3 4 . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 6 X . O . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . 5 . X O . . O . X . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The long slide,

keeps Black from making much territory in the corner.

is the standard response.

is unusual. Through

White has bolstered his weak group on the bottom side. After

White sacrifices

and

.

Shuei said that Karigane sees too many plays.

That may have been a bit of a dig, but he also said that Karigane's play was like water, which is a high compliment. For one of the plays that Karigane saw, see move 124.

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