(Learn to Play Go; Volume II)
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big endgame
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big endgame
[...] White can slip into the corner with 1. Now the corner turns into White's territory. [...] White 1 here [is] big endgame.
(Learn to Play Go; Volume II) Would you be so kind as to tell me whether 1 in the following picture would be as big endgame as 1 in the previous example? Thanks.
(Learn to Play Go; Volume II) Would you be so kind as to tell me whether 1 in the following picture would be as big endgame as 1 in the previous example? Thanks.
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Uberdude
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Re: big endgame
No, it's about 3 points smaller, though black will answer once and then tenuki:
(7-8 here is a bit better for white hence "about"). The key point is white's sente follow up of the kosumi at 3 in the first diagram reduces black's upper side territory a lot. If you attach you can't do this.
(7-8 here is a bit better for white hence "about"). The key point is white's sente follow up of the kosumi at 3 in the first diagram reduces black's upper side territory a lot. If you attach you can't do this.
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Re: big endgame
Please forgive my ignorance: where was B2 played in the first diagram from Uberdude?
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Bill Spight
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Re: big endgame
There is an easy way to compare the plays.
This is the normal result of the attachment.
But if Black replied with
to 
White would not continue with 
. OC, as Uberdude points out, Black does not have to reply to the slide. But the exchange, - , is clearly bad for White; so the original attachment is not as good as the slide. 
This is the normal result of the attachment.
But if Black replied with
to White would not continue with . OC, as Uberdude points out, Black does not have to reply to the slide. But the exchange, - , is clearly bad for White; so the original attachment is not as good as the slide. The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: big endgame
Tenuki, as wasDrew wrote:Please forgive my ignorance: where was B2 played in the first diagram from Uberdude?
in diagram 2. Both are gote yose plays. If black answers his move is smaller than white's initial move so white is happy to make points in sente.